The End of Women's Sports

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Selina Soule was one of the top five female high school sprinters in Connecticut... until competing against biological boys changed the game. Now, women aren’t just losing their races - they’re losing their chances to compete at all. Why is this happening? And what should we do about it?
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Script:
I’ve been training to be a championship sprinter since I was eight years old. With the help of my parents, my coaches, and my teammates, I did it: By sophomore year of high school, in 2018, I was one of the top five female high school sprinters in Connecticut.
But then, one day, I wasn’t.
At the state championships that year, two people passed me-passed all of us girls. Literally. They finished first and second in our races, dominating the field.
Were they more motivated? Did they train harder? I don’t think so.
But they did have an edge-a big one we couldn’t match. They were biological boys who said they were transgender girls.
Do you think that’s fair-males competing against females?
Before you make up your mind, let me tell you a bit about what it took for me to become a top female sprinter. It meant training with my team every day after school for at least two hours, working to shave fractions of a second off of my time in the 100- and 200-meter dash.
It meant not hanging out after school or going out with friends on the weekends. It meant getting up early every Saturday morning, and competing all day at a meet. It meant not indulging in any of the things that might cost me my dream.
And here’s the thing about the two biological males that took the top two girls’ medals in the State of Connecticut: Their times were not even good enough to qualify them to compete in the state championships on the boys’ team.
Let me say that again, in case you missed it: Their times were not good enough to qualify them for the boys’ state championships.
But two years in a row, they won first and second place competing against the girls. All in all, these two biological males won 15 women’s state championship titles.
Some in the media have accused me of being a sore loser. They tell me to run harder. But the biological changes that males go through during puberty are so significant, they gain an insurmountable advantage in strength and speed. That’s why boys always competed against boys and girls against girls.
U.S. runner Allyson Felix is an inspiration to me. She’s the fastest female sprinter in the world. Her lifetime best for the 400 meters is 49.26 seconds. But based on 2018 data, nearly three hundred high school boys in the U.S. alone could beat that record.
What we are talking about, then, is not just boys taking women’s trophies-though they are. And we aren’t talking about biological boys taking women’s athletic scholarships-though they’ll do that, too. When biological boys are allowed to compete against girls in sports like track, where the differences in performance are so great, we are talking about girls getting shut out-never getting the chance to win, or even compete at all.
When two biological boys took the first- and second-place spots against me in the 2019 indoor state championship, I lost the opportunity to participate at the New England championships. I lost the chance to be scouted by top coaches, possibly even to win scholarships.
Right now, biological boys are being allowed to set records on the girls’ team-deleting girls’ records, erasing the achievements of actual girls, and setting a standard probably no girl can meet no matter how much she trains or how hard she tries.
The reason that we have girls’ sports in the first place is to give female athletes with talent, hard work, and dedication an equal opportunity to shine and be recognized. But girls will never have that opportunity if they are forced to compete with biological boys in sports like track and field, softball, volleyball, or basketball.
Women fought too hard, for too long, so girls like me can have the opportunity to compete on a level playing field.
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ZCommander 9088
ZCommander 9088 4 минутын өмнө
This is ridiculous. Boys can’t compete against girls. Men will always be bigger, faster, and stronger.
mister E
mister E Цагийн өмнө
Their are differences between the races and sexes. But if you mention these differences, you are outcaste by the lunatic-lefties.
Anon Ymous
Anon Ymous 3 цагийн өмнө
The left are the most oppressive people in America, yet they claim to be the most oppressed. I'm done feeling sorry for them.
Zahin
Zahin 6 цагийн өмнө
To any conservatives reading, I'm just curious: doesn't it take thousands of dollars to go through transitioning? Why would someone transition to the opposite gender just to win a few medals? Sorry for bad english, it isn't my first language, and I'm just a curious centrist trying to figure out politics :)
Ausguy505
Ausguy505 7 цагийн өмнө
Simple fix, if you are trans then compete with other trans athletes with their identified gender. If they don't want to then that's their issue. Much Love
David Smith
David Smith 8 цагийн өмнө
Anything a man can do a woman can do better! #womenempowerment
Joshua Freeman
Joshua Freeman 9 цагийн өмнө
The record is actually Marita Koch at 47.6 seconds, therefore the fastest female sprinter in the world. Yes, slower than the fastest male sprinter, but MUCH faster than the example cited. However, I don't know what the correct answer is. This is more nuanced than the video is purporting (but then again this is Prager U, not a bastion of intellect and curiosity). It's a tough question. Recent research suggests that the vast majority of trans-gendered females DO NOT have an advantage and are within the norm of their cis-gendered female counterparts. There are outliers that exist, as mentioned. Those outliers seem to suggest there may be some sort of advantage for a smaller population subset of trans-gendered women athletes. It is very hard to draw a rigid line based on gender/sex. One idea floating around is to build a handicap system in which testosterone levels, hemoglobin, and even socio-economic status are taken into consideration as a means to measure ability.
Sean Patrick
Sean Patrick 9 цагийн өмнө
This only have I found: God created human beings upright, but they have sought out many inventions. - Qoheleth
MinNettside
MinNettside 10 цагийн өмнө
Have 4 groups: Woman, Men, Mixed-gender, Steroids
tieddd
tieddd 10 цагийн өмнө
Lets make a transgender sports and throw in both transgender identities in and watch all the "women" win
Uber Techie
Uber Techie 11 цагийн өмнө
What's really funny is that women only think EQUALITY is a bad thing if it puts them at a disadvantage.
Mr Potato Head
Mr Potato Head 13 цагийн өмнө
Political correct Marxism is destroying the world.
Sai Sumanth
Sai Sumanth 15 цагийн өмнө
And the WNBA wonders why even women won't watch their insignificant competence in comparison to NBA. Also, let me tell you this honey; except for the top-tier gene males who have traits to possibly excel in what competence was seen in by the world, the rest are all restricted by their biological construction and no one gives a fcuk about how hard we work nor they give any well-reputated platform like this to express our views on how the world sees us unfairly. I was a pot during my childhood. Not only am I not so athletic, but am also put in my place in the lowest of the low by what I can now safely consider as brutal abuse by my parents, tutor( encouraged by my parents for better grades), teachers( I was the class clown for students to make stories about). I never hit any growth sprunt. I never had any proper friends. I never had a proper adult figure to follow on. I was the typical beta nerd addicted to anime and daydreaming. At age-14, I had my first crush at a new school I just went into. Soon, I started to experience male emotions and wanted to shine for her. Irrespective of who was with me or without me, I just wanted to impress her. FYI, she was one new friend of mine there and that possibly was the only bond I've invested my sense of self into. With her being my only goal, I trained as hell despite my mental health been fcuked up. I loved football from when I was 8. Having a three to five-hour regime a day with proper diet, of constant practice, despite having nine-hour school and extra homework, I cut my sleep and extracurricular activities to go to champions, I wasn't able to go anywhere near the talented. Even after three straight years of hell, I merely was selected as a bench extra and couldn't even get to participate mains. I was able to impress none. My body was way more fit and healthy but, I'm short and weak as in physic. I wasn't selected for the training of the army because of my weak flatfoot( my main drawback even in my sports tenure). Fighting this alone for so long ruined my chance to enjoy even a typical teenager's life. Not only didn't I make any friends but I couldn't even develop enough skills to approach anyone. I was a self-centered daydreamer. My nerd study and visualization paid off and I was in a well-reputed college. But at what cost? I discontinued my college due to pretty much my mental health being far more fcuked up being a loner who got the taste of the worst reality. I'm under medication. Six years later, she was still my only crush. I love her. I never confessed to her cause I never achieved anything and was a lump of baggage as of now. I don't deserve anyone as of now. None gives a cr*p about you nor your effort if you didn't achieve anything the world praises. At least I'm strong and accepted my fate after all the hell I could put unlike you, who was whining about wanting to get the same treatment as that of your superiors in the same fields when you're nowhere near the ones who're in the top leagues. It's pathetic. Accept yourself and place yourself the tallest, your wish. But don't whine about life being unfair to your pu*y a*s( it's not strong and empowering in the least). No one's born equal, absolutely none. Only because you as a woman lack some advantage as that of a trans woman, doesn't mean you're entitled to special privileges. How can you even accept the results after getting privileges? It's the most pathetic thing I can ever imagine. Accept yourself and quit whining. Sports were long lost being the means to encourage hard work and dedication. Nowadays sports were mere means of entertainment and only the tallest shine the best. Your broken logic at 3:31 is only noticeable for those who pay attention. What does 'To shine and be recognized.' mean? To be the tallest in the entertainment industry of the king's lifestyle and acknowledgment, you're begging for privileges. You yourself aren't encouraging hard work and dedication as main mottos but are using the WoMAn card to shine in the space you wanted to propagate for which you have less audience for obvious reasons. In a similar way, on the path you're proceeding, you cannot vouch for people like me who lack talent, to propagate the power of hard work, dedication, and efficiency( apparently) because you won't even get any card to play in such cases. Using the old and lost motto of sports by using a woman card to conveniently have yourself at the top leagues in personalized space is nothing more than wanting to rise to the top selfishly with neglecting your capability. This has nothing to do with us or the public who themselves want competence in the first place( not hard work nor dedication). The only half-aced public here in comments would lean on both wanting only the competence part and your broken logic( temporarily getting brainwashed and contradicting their motto for watching sports).
NEXTGEN GAMING
NEXTGEN GAMING 16 цагийн өмнө
Thats why I think there should be a third and forth section to sports now, for transgender females and transgender males, so that the playing field remains level
Medhavi Monish
Medhavi Monish 16 цагийн өмнө
Well you can't reason with those. Their equality differs from everyone else.
Maximum Gaming
Maximum Gaming 16 цагийн өмнө
So essentially you are just saying that sports should be transphobic.... Liberal logic
Andrew Wilson
Andrew Wilson 17 цагийн өмнө
What in the hell is this and why is it an add Prageru is the dumbest sh*t I've seen online in months
Enter The Infinite
Enter The Infinite 18 цагийн өмнө
Women don't compete with men in physical sports for obvious reasons Women don't compete with men on e-sports nor chess for obvious reasons. One of those sentences is "controversial" to say And it's not the second one. This is madness i tell you.
Kurtis Brooks
Kurtis Brooks 18 цагийн өмнө
Good Job Selina!
Scott
Scott 19 цагийн өмнө
I feel for you, and all the girls, I really do. But I also see your state voted for and re-elected most of the same politicians. To me, that would imply that in your state, they don't care, or it is not that important. Good Luck in your lawsuit.
Silk-milk- Is-trash
Silk-milk- Is-trash 19 цагийн өмнө
Equal rights equal fights -luigi
アッキー
アッキー 19 цагийн өмнө
やばすぎる
Three B Plus
Three B Plus 19 цагийн өмнө
I thought that the spirit of fair play was a good side of America. But I was wrong. Her claim is correct. Two biological boys who participated in the competition as female athletes will insist after graduating from college. "I was wrong, I am not a female, I am a male" Ready to bet all property. from Japan.
Phantom Roxy
Phantom Roxy 20 цагийн өмнө
I honestly have nothing really to say. I mean its not fair but...there's just something about it that's holding be back from completely agreeing. I mean its not fair because of the advantages, but if no boys team will accept them, then do they just give up? Idk. I'm kinda split. Its not fair I get that. But where do they go? Idk. Its hard to put my thoughts into words. Idk if they're even clear.
Alex Piscopo
Alex Piscopo 20 цагийн өмнө
Maybe males compete against males Girls against girls Bio guys against bio guys Bio girls against bio girls The four nations can love in harmony
Bob Duke
Bob Duke 19 цагийн өмнө
No one wants to watch trans genders compete. It’s bad for business that broadcast it.
Johnelle
Johnelle 20 цагийн өмнө
Y’all please don’t listen to this girls bs. The transgender athlete didn’t make her lose any damn money. She’s a bad athlete is general tbh. Other female athletes have beat the transgender athletes she loves to talk about all the damn time and even if the trans athletes weren’t there, she doesn’t have good stats to get scouted by anyone. She’s a whiney little bitch and that’s that.
Tardersauce35
Tardersauce35 20 цагийн өмнө
Don’t act like sports have always been a complete reflection of the effort put in
QqQ
QqQ 21 цагийн өмнө
and not even mentioned here, but if you're a guy and you want to shower with the high school girls, just say you're female trapped in a man's body. Democrats will hold the door open to the girls' locker room for you.
Me Likes to Games
Me Likes to Games 21 цагийн өмнө
I say this all the time: banning transgender people from women's sports is not transphobic, but allowing them to compete in women's sports is really discrimination against the women.
Ed O'Toole
Ed O'Toole 21 цагийн өмнө
Women's rights clash with transgender rights. This is what happens when everyone gets their rights.
Mika Yamamoto
Mika Yamamoto 21 цагийн өмнө
Wtf
Elijah Selvin
Elijah Selvin 22 цагийн өмнө
This video is really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really stupid
Bob Duke
Bob Duke 19 цагийн өмнө
How’s it stupid? Bio women don’t get to compete against bio women and this girl is bringing this crazy injustice to light. Give your head a shake.
FoxIslanderSteve
FoxIslanderSteve 22 цагийн өмнө
....equality right? It's what you wanted.
Bob Duke
Bob Duke 19 цагийн өмнө
For crazy leftist liberals. And the stupid people who landed to a small, loud crowd of mentally ill, confused people.
Joshua Hernandez
Joshua Hernandez 23 цагийн өмнө
Sounds like you are in the wrong state
Kitty Wrath
Kitty Wrath 23 цагийн өмнө
Please report this video. Thank you. Edit: don’t hold back on disliking transphobic comments, replies, or content. Nobody deserves to be oppressed. Pragur U needs to be shut down. They spread hate and violence. Don’t donate to them, and keep reporting them. MNpost will give up eventually and shut them down. It only takes spark to make a fire.
Zahin
Zahin 6 цагийн өмнө
@NEXTGEN GAMING Well, because pointing it out contributes to the 41% suicide attempt rate. Also rejecting transgenderism is pretty anti science, because organizations such as the American Psychological Association ○ American Medical Association ○ American Psychoanalytic Association ○ Human Rights Campaign ○ American Academy of Pediatrics ○ American College of Osteopathic Pediatricians ○ United Nations ○ United Kingdom’s National Health Service Also it makes no sense to transition just to transition purely just to get a few medals??? It takes like thousands of dollars and they'll get shit from people like you, and they'll do it all just to win a few medals? C'mon, that doesn't make sense does it?
NEXTGEN GAMING
NEXTGEN GAMING 6 цагийн өмнө
@Kitty Wrath how is pointing out how men and women are not equal biologically hate? I think you need to go cool off snowflake, before you melt
Kitty Wrath
Kitty Wrath 9 цагийн өмнө
@NEXTGEN GAMING it’s not a debate, nor free speech. Pragur U spreads hate, therefore violating trans’ people’s rights. Pragur U NEEDS to be shut down. I don’t care if YOU don’t care, because there are many others who do. Remember, ✨*valid*✨
NEXTGEN GAMING
NEXTGEN GAMING 15 цагийн өмнө
Yes because when somebody says something that you don't agree with the only logical answer is to censor them, not maybe, I don't know, using free speech as it was intended by coming up with a counter argument. Free speech was designed for debates, so that ideas can be spread around
Braquiochonc v.U
Braquiochonc v.U Өдрийн өмнө
This just demostrates, trangender girls aren't true girls, and transgender boys aren't true boys.
Brusbser Jr.
Brusbser Jr. Өдрийн өмнө
Man people are so retarded now. Why does this girl even have to explain this. When I was younger I remember people understanding basic biology. I guess that's just not a thing anymore. Smh
Not Kaitlynn
Not Kaitlynn Өдрийн өмнө
She's talking like she is going through the worst possible thing in the world. Not even mentioning that this really doesn't matter in the long term, imagine how those poor girls feel. First of all, getting called the wrong pronouns throughout this whole video. Secondly, those poor human beings have spent their whole lives convincing people that they were actually female in a man's body. They finally get some respect and basic human rights and are even allowed to use their correct bathrooms and play the sports that they love. They are just as many girls as the girl telling the story at heart. The poor girls can't help that their bodies are betraying who they are. They work so hard, maybe even harder than the girl in the video, to win and get better. When they finally have, people are saying that it's not because they're talented, only because of their biological gender. That's the real issue with society. Just because you lose against someone different, doesn't mean you should battle against them. You should train, just like you did before because equality will never get easier unless we all try and learn from those who best us.
joking back
joking back 22 цагийн өмнө
I get you love transgender and all, but the problem is still there, and your argument is basing off of the "train harder" statment
Joshua Hernandez
Joshua Hernandez 22 цагийн өмнө
That’s cause they are actually boys... aside from that they both purposely went to the girls team because they couldn’t make the boys team. They used gender as a way to get recognized. If this video is in fact about the same two boys I’m thinking of. Boys are boys girls are girls and society is trying to change that. It’s a shame.
BumblebeeTunaGuy
BumblebeeTunaGuy Өдрийн өмнө
Good luck Selina, we've got your back 👍
GenerousGhibli
GenerousGhibli Өдрийн өмнө
Run faster.
Music Man
Music Man Өдрийн өмнө
This is just like Boy Scouts, oh sorry now scouts of America.
Lord Ben, Smiter of Libtardoid lifeforms.
Lord Ben, Smiter of Libtardoid lifeforms. 2 цагийн өмнө
This is so unepic, we need to save America from degeneracy.
Music Man
Music Man 6 цагийн өмнө
Not really they are one in the same. You see a man I’m not allowed to go into Girl Scouts but girls are allowed to go into Boy Scouts and men are now allowed to compete in woman’s competition so if you are looking at the way I am they are very much similar
Joshua Freeman
Joshua Freeman 9 цагийн өмнө
No, they're very different issues.
agung pranoto
agung pranoto Өдрийн өмнө
Western people are losing their mind for supporting such leftism.
Shaun Hurrie
Shaun Hurrie Өдрийн өмнө
When the reality of God's World and His Word are denied, this is the inevitable outcome. The wholly equal value of girls and women to boys and men is completely undermined when they are not recognized as different. Yes...EQUAL but DIFFERENT. Like a knife and fork - both utensils, different function. Hence girl's and women's sport. Keep fighting for this reality Selina :-)
zach bledsoe
zach bledsoe Өдрийн өмнө
Why are you calling them biological boys?
Oliver Yukica
Oliver Yukica Өдрийн өмнө
who told you "women should be seen, not heard?" I kind of doubt that anyone said that to you. I thought sexism was "A thing of the past;" I though "patriarchy was dead;" what happened, Prager U? What changed your mind? If a leftist ever said anything like this to you, you'd call them a "triggered sjw," tell them to "calm down" and quit being such a "sore loser." You'd tear them apart. "Erasing the achievements of 'actual girls?'" What is wrong with you? Do you have any idea what it's like to be a transgender person in modern-day society? Do have any clue what it's like to face actual discrimination? Transgender Americans have fought too hard, for too long, so that they can be treated like human beings, and not mistakes. You obviously have never seen real sexism or prejudice, so shut up. Just shut up. okay. I'm going to go calm down now. Feel free to tear me apart in your replies - or don't. I don't care. I just needed to vent for a bit.
Freef Beef
Freef Beef Өдрийн өмнө
Prager U back at it with the misleading videos. The differences cause by testosterone are negated when on estrogen and testosterone blockers, so trans women wouldn’t get any more of an advantage than any other woman. Even if hormone therapy didn’t completely level the field, by this standard women with PCOS or other endocrine disorders would be barred from women’s sports as well. It’s really misleading to use the results for men who are not on testosterone blockers or estrogen and say that they’re in any way similar to those of trans women. Trans women have been allowed to compete in the women’s olympics since 2004, and yet we haven’t seen the women’s Olympics become overrun with trans women. I wonder why that is? I wonder why a single price of anecdotal evidence was all this $25 million dollar propaganda machine could churn out? No one is doubting the effects of testosterone on the body, or trying to ‘silence the truth,’ it’s just a matter of fact that any “advantage” a trans woman might have is still within the normal range of performance for cis women given that they’re receiving hormone therapy. Bravo on the distinction between trans women and ‘real’ women. Also, is this the same Prager U that said that feminism was unnecessary in the modern day and feminists should thank men for giving them the rights they were fighting for? Weird that you’d try to take a feminist stance on this, almost as if you’re not actually committed to any moral values and just publish whatever content fits the narrative you want to spin that week in order to prey on people who don’t know any better. But what can you expect from a company that’s bankrolled by the Wilks brothers. It’s interesting that the channel which says it’s so dedicated to the the Truth, Reason, and Logic has yet to publish a single video which hold up against the slightest application of critical thinking. Edit: I didn’t mention this before, but forcing trans people to compete in the wrong league would also mean that trans men would be competing in women’s sports. Do you think it would be fair to have Buck Angel in the same wrestling league as a woman?
blake dennison
blake dennison Өдрийн өмнө
U were cheated yes but dont give up!
Richard Anderson Molina Betancourt
Richard Anderson Molina Betancourt Өдрийн өмнө
Transphobic?
Guy The guy
Guy The guy Өдрийн өмнө
they should be able to participate they are women not men
joe cool
joe cool Өдрийн өмнө
Yes it’s fair they are women
Agnes Saravo
Agnes Saravo Өдрийн өмнө
Okay this is truely sad, poor Selina. It takes determination and hardwork to make it this far in sports. I pray that she wins her case for her sake and for the sake of all female athletes. I hate to admit it I like the boastful and proud USA more. I don't want the US to fall apart like this. I pray the US becomes the great nation of dreams that it once was. 🇺🇲 USA USA !
Putin did nothing wrong.
Putin did nothing wrong. Өдрийн өмнө
Imagine crying that someone else beat you, theres no excuse, work harder, you conservatives piss me off
Nicholas Sheridan
Nicholas Sheridan Өдрийн өмнө
Trans people should have their own sports and shouldnt mix with women or men for sports lol plain and simple
Peter Downey
Peter Downey Өдрийн өмнө
What do you say we have four events: - One for cis men - One for cis women - One for trans men - One for trans women Problem solved.
tieddd
tieddd 10 цагийн өмнө
@NEXTGEN GAMING facts, shits getting out of hand bruh
NEXTGEN GAMING
NEXTGEN GAMING 16 цагийн өмнө
@SulferDragon well people that are questioning can just be considered by their biological gender until further notice
SulferDragon
SulferDragon 17 цагийн өмнө
What about agender events and events for those who do not self-identify? What about people who consider themselves as queer or questioning? What about the other variety of things that people continually want to identify as? How is adding more categories going to solve anything at all?
AkiraTheGodEater
AkiraTheGodEater Өдрийн өмнө
You know exactly who to blame for it!
Alec Stahl
Alec Stahl Өдрийн өмнө
I am sorry but equality is not a buffet where you pick and choose what is convenient to you. In fact, we should go equal all the way and put women and men to compete in all sports, which would end women in sports forever. It bothers me greatly having to pay to enter in certain places while the ladies have a free pass.
NotDiego RoundFace
NotDiego RoundFace Өдрийн өмнө
Equality - Human Biology = Man Wins Equality + Human Biology = Man and Woman Wins
Peter Smith
Peter Smith Өдрийн өмнө
The beginning of the end for women's sports.
Vince Masiello
Vince Masiello Өдрийн өмнө
5 minutes of conservative tears Sooo good
Eugen Golubic
Eugen Golubic Өдрийн өмнө
I'm proud to be a man and I love it. The same should a woman feel about being female. That's ok. Men and women are different. That's ok. Men are generally better at some things and women are generally better at other things. That's ok. What's not ok is to pretend our differences don't matter or exist. How feminism advocates for crushing the dreams and hopes of thousands of females and making their effort useless instead of supporting them to strive in what they are good at is completly beyond me.
Madison T
Madison T Өдрийн өмнө
I am so happy that transgender people are able to feel more comfortable in today's society. But your gender does not alter your biological sex. I think it should certainly be a condition that if trans people want to compete in sport, they must compete in the division that matches their biology. From the perspective of a male-to-female trans woman, it can feel humiliating for them to 'admit' to being a biological male, after they've been fighting so hard to be accepted as a woman. But if we work hard to respect and accept trans people's identity, and be accepting of the idea that sex and gender are different things, then trans people will likely feel less attacked by the idea of competing in their biological division and understand our gripe isn't coming from a place of fear or hatred, but of perceived injustice.
Eco Mouse
Eco Mouse Өдрийн өмнө
DNA Tests required to advance beyond local and regional competitions, where scholarship and athletic advancement is on the line. Otherwise, every girl that lost out on the potential to receive a scholarship for athletic success, should be entitled to monetary compensation through lawsuits. The money would most likely have to come out of the athletic governing body's coffers to make restitution and damages from future potential earnings. That's right... you make them put their money where their mouth is, and you'll see their "equal and fair" rubbish fall apart in the court of law. Because someone has to be discriminated against in order to enforce those rules of "equal outcomes". Our constitution and local laws do not allow for that.
Good Mayo
Good Mayo Өдрийн өмнө
Ok, this is a terrible thing to say, you're saying that these are men and not "real girls" these are people who identify as and thus are females and deserve to be treated as such, this is a bigoted thing to say, they are female athletes, not men acting like female athletes.
Jenevieve Majoor
Jenevieve Majoor 8 цагийн өмнө
I don't think that's what they meant, trans women are real women, however trans women were initially born biologically male which gave them so many more physical advantages than a person born biologically a girl would have. Even if trans women did the whole process of full transition, it's never going to get rid of all the physical advantages they had before because they initially developed in a body dominated by testosterone instead of developing with more oestregen in their body. So they are real women, but I think trans women should have their own category because of the massive physical advantages they were born with in the beginning, so that way it equalizes the plain field and makes competing fair.
Pattherealist
Pattherealist Өдрийн өмнө
Why suddenly does the majority have to suffer to appease a tiny minority. Thats not how democracy works. These medals need to be taken back. Have a seperate class for transgender biological males. That's the only fair way to do it. America is gone nuts with this.
campcallalily_bre
campcallalily_bre Өдрийн өмнө
They are not males they are females
Joanna R
Joanna R Өдрийн өмнө
women will say they’re feminists and then say shit like this
Robby Peterson
Robby Peterson Өдрийн өмнө
How is nobody mentioning the fact that this very girl has won races against the ones she is complaining about? Why is no one comparing the average times these trans girls are completing their races to the cis boys that they supposedly are more comparable too?
Green Achers
Green Achers Өдрийн өмнө
But... We've been told for decades that women are equal to men. So which is it? The same or different? Let's at least establish this baseline before we start judging the new tradgity.
DoctorMeh
DoctorMeh Өдрийн өмнө
This is one of the few things I can agree with this channel on.
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Libra Chhuana
Libra Chhuana Өдрийн өмнө
Why don't they just make other categories for trans people?
Insanity Cubed
Insanity Cubed Өдрийн өмнө
I would recommend calling them what they like to be called if you want to be taken seriously by the opposition. Trans people and allies can easily get activated when someone uses biological male/female/boy/girl/etc. or just their AGAB(assigned gender at birth) to refer to trans people because they use different terminology so it sounds off putting. AMAB(assigned male at birth) person/female/girl would probably work best here since the focus is on the sex. I'm trying to be non-partisan here; I just like to see people actually communicating instead of ignoring something because of a language barrier.
Insanity Cubed
Insanity Cubed Өдрийн өмнө
@vector Don't worry, I'm not easily offended. It is pretty new terminology, but they believe they were oppressed under traditional terms so naturally they get offended and distracted no matter if they are used in ill will or not. They don't all think the same. Some still use the term transsexual, some no longer recognize crossdresser as a label, and there are plenty more differences. I would never force anyone to do anything, but I would prefer if they use this terminology even if only when trying to talk to people with differing opinions on the subject. Also I don't think the analogy works here. I'm saying what I think the author should use to be heard by the other side, not that people should be expected to immediately understand and that if they don't someone should get angry about it. Not everyone is going to be aware of the fact they are easily activated, but they still are. I saw that I was, and reevaluated my actions before posting a comment about how rude it was, but this is not about me as an individual. It's about another side of the issue as a group. Groups often have triggers that would make them react in a predictable way instead of actually considering the argument. My point in making this comment was not to mitigate negative emotions, but to ease discourse. Another thing: You claimed that you were not trying to offend, and then insulted my opinions by calling them childish, and also used a strawman argument. I'd say you were easily activated, and should then logically take your own recommended course of actions, and "learn how to control your emotions and reactions instead of making every one else only speak in terms that will never make you feel bad or sad."
vector
vector Өдрийн өмнө
should not transgender people and allies who all conform and subscribe to this new and avant garde way of thought instead try to make their case by using the age old and understood by the majority terminology instead of the vice versa? i am not trying to be offensive however when you step back and realize how new this all is and the impatience of people pushing this to normalization it's all a bit much. Older and traditional folk should not be forced to speak like that. It is like mumbling your words to an almost deaf person and then getting mad when they say "what?" Furthermore if you are aware of the fact you are 'easily activated' the right thing to do would be to learn how to control your emotions and reactions instead of making every one else only speak in terms that will never make you feel bad or sad. It is a very childish way of approaching an important dialogue.
Le Lemon
Le Lemon Өдрийн өмнө
Maybe if she didn't do meth she would have won
J.Dragon
J.Dragon Өдрийн өмнө
The equality is not to bring down everyone on the lower level. It is to provide equal opportunities and fair access to education, public services, job opportunities, so forth. It is not about making everything EQUAL as there are biological differences and preferences: It is not the same. Understand the difference between men and women and make our society more accessible based on each individual's strengths and merit.
John Moura
John Moura Өдрийн өмнө
Sowing and reaping - - You couldn't wait to claim your victimhood and celebrate Title 9 but now you don't like what the women's rights and gender agenda has led to. Typical girl.
Joseph Githens
Joseph Githens Өдрийн өмнө
Have the transgender people compete against other transgender people. Problem solved.
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NEXTGEN GAMING 16 цагийн өмнө
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James Li
James Li Өдрийн өмнө
Modern Regressive Leftism: (very lousy) transgender male athletes dominating female games is great, and at the same time female soccer players are entitled to “equal pay” to male players despite the competitiveness, difficulty and commercial influence of the two games are massively different.
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