The Book Club: Genesis with Bishop Robert Barron

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Biblical illiteracy is at an all-time high. Many Americans believe the Bible is archaic, even irrelevant to the changing culture. In this episode, Bishop Robert Barron and Michael Knowles take you through Genesis, the first book of the Bible, to uncover foundational truths about mankind and human civilization.
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Rafael Wilks
Rafael Wilks Өдрийн өмнө
"... it must be observed that in addition to the usual reasons which make ancient writings more or less difficult to understand, there are some which are peculiar to the Bible. For the language of the Bible is employed to express, under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, many things which are beyond the power and scope of the reason of man - that is to say, divine mysteries and all that is related to them. There is sometimes in such passages a fullness and a hidden depth of meaning which the letter hardly expresses and which the laws of interpretation hardly warrant. Moreover, the literal sense itself frequently admits other senses, adapted to illustrate dogma or to confirm morality....". w2.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_18111893_providentissimus-deus.html
Thomas Duffy
Thomas Duffy Өдрийн өмнө
Cool video
Victor Allen
Victor Allen 2 өдрийн өмнө
I'm sure it's a good read my lady .
Rafa Gambardella
Rafa Gambardella 5 өдрийн өмнө
I would just remark that we as protestants tend to see the ark itself as Jesus, only in Him we are saved.
Rafa Gambardella
Rafa Gambardella 5 өдрийн өмнө
SO GOOD! THANK YOU!
Rafa Gambardella
Rafa Gambardella 5 өдрийн өмнө
"how it was written by illiterate people I'm not quite sure" hahahahahhha
grand poobah
grand poobah 11 өдрийн өмнө
I just picked up Dennis prager Happiness book and his 10 commandments book. I also picked up a book called The 5,000 year Leap.
crazymuthaphukr
crazymuthaphukr 12 өдрийн өмнө
If you dont include atleast one GK Chesterton book in this series a lot of us will be very disappointed!
Ong Seng Aun
Ong Seng Aun 15 өдрийн өмнө
Only in Judeo-Christianity, it is alright to struggle with God. Others demand full submission.
José dos Santos
José dos Santos 15 өдрийн өмнө
About Genesis: - The world was not created in 6 days, period. - God did not create the Sun, the Moon and the Stars, only on the 4th day. - God did not create the Earth with fruit trees on the 3th day, without the Sun and the Stars, in the dark. We need better interpretations of the Bible's allegories not facts.
splinterbyrd
splinterbyrd 15 өдрийн өмнө
Bishop Barron. Protestant countries are uniformally more successful than Catholic countries. Discuss.
Rafael Wilks
Rafael Wilks Өдрийн өмнө
😂
Ponera Grimoire
Ponera Grimoire 17 өдрийн өмнө
"We're here to discuss the very beginning of wisdom... The book of Genesis." You mean the book where God punishes not only Adam and Eve, but all of their descendants for the crime of ATTAINING WISDOM?
Retard
Retard 18 өдрийн өмнө
Crime and punishment, it shows how leaving behind Christian institutions/law goes; do one of these on it!
Mtlbro6
Mtlbro6 22 өдрийн өмнө
The story of Abraham "attempting to sacrifice Isaac" prefigures Christ because God provided a sacrifice (His ram) to die instead of humans (Isaac) (Romans 8:32). You also failed to mention how rampant child sacrifice was in Abraham's day up to even Jesus' day (Matthew 16).
Sam Madden
Sam Madden 24 өдрийн өмнө
Wow, this Bishop gets it. Excellent discussion.
Aidan
Aidan 25 өдрийн өмнө
Buncha dummies at prageru
Sibergirl
Sibergirl 26 өдрийн өмнө
This was so terrific. Thanks Michael and PragerU. I’d love to see Bishop Barron on more Book Club episodes.
Danny Gray
Danny Gray 26 өдрийн өмнө
These are interesting perspectives, but they still make me cringe at their misinterpretations.
Danny Gray
Danny Gray 20 өдрийн өмнө
@Sonia Martin Luther was a much a hag as every pope that ever existed. He altered scripture just like the catholics did. But the catholic church is the worst offender. They've skewed the word of God to fit their own desires, and in so doing they mock God. Blasphemousfrom the start. The catholic church has no power in God's priesthood and no authority in His kingdom. It'll be a wonderful day when the lord destroys that whore of a church.
Sonia Martin
Sonia Martin 20 өдрийн өмнө
@Danny Gray Orthodoxy requires an historical hierarchy. This is what Luther (the Protestant 'god') said about 'commoners' and their understanding of Scripture in his own lifetime: ‘Noblemen, townsmen, peasants, all classes understand the Evangelium better than I or St Paul. They are now wise and think themselves more learned than all the ministers…this one will not hear of Baptism, that one denies the Sacraments…some teach that Christ is not God: there are about as many sects and creeds as there are heads. No Yokel is so rude, but when he has dreams and fancies, he thinks himself inspired by the Holy Ghost and must be a prophet…There is no smearer but whenever he has heard a sermon or can read a chapter in German (meaning a secular tongue (not Latin)), makes a doctor of himself, and crowns his ass, convincing himself that he knows everything better than all who teach him….When they have heard or learned a few things about Holy Scripture, they think they are already doctors and have swallowed the Holy Ghost, feathers and all…How many doctors have I made by preaching and writing? Now they say, ‘Be off with you. Go off with you. Go to the devil.’ Thus it must be. When we preach they laugh…when we get angry and threaten them, they mock us, snap their fingers at us and laugh in their sleeves.”
Danny Gray
Danny Gray 20 өдрийн өмнө
@Sonia Martin apparently you've never met a catholic because to say a protestant could be more arrogant than a catholic is someone laughable. In fact, I'd be willing to submit than anyone being more arrogant than a catholic is dammed near impossible. That being said, the catholic church knows it didn't work by the power of the Holy Ghost. I'm pretty sure the Holy Ghost didn't tell the catholic church to alter scripture and doctrine, when the commoners started being able to read the word of God, in order to control them. This is historical fact: that the right hand Satan uses to touch himself - the Popes - didn't like how commoners could understand scripture and had the monks and cardinals change scriptures over night. Then of course you have the people of Satan's left hand, whom he uses to touch little boys - the bishops and priests - who were ready to excommunicate anyone who disagreed with the Popes. Honestly, Sonia, this stuff isn't tough to know when you just do a pinch of research. This is all admitted by the catholic church itself.
Sonia Martin
Sonia Martin 20 өдрийн өмнө
​@Danny Gray An historical hierarchy is necessary for an established orthodoxy... that makes your position of random heresy declarer a historical to say the least. Catholicism arbitrarily changes nothing. It simply continued the established hierarchical Jewish theology and liturgy in the light of believing that Christ is the long awaited Messias. Those who comprised the first century Church were Orthodox Jews who believed they had been given a commission by the true Moshiach. The Church interprets all scripture in the light of the Revelation of the Word of God (which includes tradition (necessarily as tradition precedes scripture) and scripture); and that included the establishment of a hierarchy, believed to be inspired by the Holy Ghost; a Church that was granted amnesty and then legitimacy under Constantine. If you want to dismiss the Church's interpretation, centuries of the greatest minds applying their skills, faith and experience in languages, theology, philosophy, history etc. to the 'problem' of interpreting scripture... But it is empty to try and characterize the Catholic Church as 'heterodox'. P.S. You are solidly wrong in the statement 'the Catholic Church is what Christ spoke against'. Read John 6 (especially from v.30 to 72.) Various Jews of the time honestly could not accept His teaching and 'walked with Him no more'. But Protestantism claims Christ, yet rejects this same teaching. Protestants, by and large, are too lazy to be Jews, and too arrogant to be Catholics.
Lerian V
Lerian V 22 өдрийн өмнө
@Danny Gray Let's start from the basics and work our way up the issues you raised. So, who determines what pertains to heresy? Whose interpretation of scripture is infallible?
1 1
1 1 29 өдрийн өмнө
Genesis was written by Moses.
Matthew Cubbage
Matthew Cubbage Сарын өмнө
I had never heard of Bishop Barron before watching this video, but I loved the discussion of Genesis. Please do the rest of the books of the bible!
Catholic Conservative
Catholic Conservative Сарын өмнө
It is nice not see a Catholic that has not swallowed the Kool Aid.
Deborah Tomney
Deborah Tomney Сарын өмнө
I would love to hear Bishop Barron comment on more books from the Bible. I enjoyed this immeasurably.
Andrew Roth
Andrew Roth Сарын өмнө
Get this heretic of a bishop of PragerU. The man is a fraud catholic and should not have any public platform.
Rafael Wilks
Rafael Wilks Өдрийн өмнө
PragerU is a fraud platform, too, that preaches Freemasonic ideology.
FF 2016
FF 2016 Сарын өмнө
Can't wait till they do Ezekiel
BigMo
BigMo Сарын өмнө
I’m curious about interpretive differences regarding the book of Genesis - Catholic compared to the Jewish. In theory, they should be very similar as the differences should be about the New Testament..... I’d appreciate a conversation between the Bishop and Denise Prague
Scott Miller
Scott Miller Сарын өмнө
So when Jesus says Moses wrote Genesis, I guess he was not as knowledgeable as Bishop Baron. We sure are lucky to have such smart guys leading the Church.
As A man thinketh
As A man thinketh Сарын өмнө
first of all, writing meant entirely different than now take for example prophecy in Matthew he says he is going to quote Isaiah but quotes another prophet since Isaiah was the authority figure behind the minor prophet so yes some part of the Torah does go back to moses
Linda O'Shaughnessy
Linda O'Shaughnessy Сарын өмнө
One of the BEST episodes of Book Club! Both Michael Knowles and Bishop Barron at their best. I hope that they do more shows together!
Nope Can not
Nope Can not Сарын өмнө
If Prager chooses to have a Catholic come back on to give his opinion not fact because this guy has no idea about the Word of God, SIN is the problem Jesus Christ is the answer and if you do not know Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior your praise means nothing to God. Your prayers means nothing to God. So if they have this idiot on again I’ll unsubscribe
Nope Can not
Nope Can not Сарын өмнө
This man has no idea what he’s talking about. The thing that went wrong is SIN, when Adam and Eve ate the fruit that God told them not to eat that brought forth the SINnature the fruit wasn’t the problem it was the fact they disobeyed Gods word. No matter who you are if your not saved “Born Again” your praise means nothing to God. By his looks he’s a Catholic and religion is the most dangerous thing for any person. This is where me and Prager U will have disagreements because catholicism will lead each follower to HELL.
Lerian V
Lerian V 16 өдрийн өмнө
@Nope Can not What does Adam and Eve's "KNOWLEDGE of good and evil" mean? Stop dodging the question.
Nope Can not
Nope Can not 17 өдрийн өмнө
@Lerian V ok I’ll be the big person and go ahead and stop this. I’ve answered that question, go back to my first answer because it’s not going to change I’m sorry you do not understand. Yes I answered it yes I know what it means NO you do not know what it means. It’s not about the word knowledge it’s not about the word evil those two are obvious it’s about the word “good” which is the one that deceives many like yourself you think you know what it means and know one else does but your absolutely wrong in your explanation.
Lerian V
Lerian V 17 өдрийн өмнө
@Nope Can not What does Adam and Eve's "KNOWLEDGE of good and evil" mean? Stop bobbing and weaving, answer the question or admit that you don't know before we engage in anything else. What I'm asking you is in the first book of the bible, the same bible you are pretending to have regard for. The same bible that was canonized by the Catholic Church. I just finished with another Protestant in another thread who has now admitted that to accept the bible as inerrant equally means acceptance of the authority that put the bible together and canonized it as scripture. Stop beating around the bush, answer my question.
Nope Can not
Nope Can not 17 өдрийн өмнө
@Lerian V yes I did answer it, it’s not the answer you want. Now answer my question “ Do you believe the Holy Bible is Gods Devine word to believers?” Why are you avoiding the question? I’ll say catholicism will every person to hell, this pope is a LIAR all priest are LIARS the MidEvil Times was caused by the catholic church who was murdering innocent people attempting to force every to convert to catholicism sounds like islam uh?
Nope Can not
Nope Can not 18 өдрийн өмнө
@Lerian V as I said your accusing me of what your doing, it’s 😄 I tell you what you answer my question and then I’ll explain it again. “Do you believe the Holy Bible is Gods Devine word to the believers? “
sveatch40
sveatch40 Сарын өмнө
Well done Michael Knowles. I commend you for the quality of the reading material that you discuss in this series. My main request is that you make this series an hour, not just half an hour. Thank for this series. I look forward to your next episode as always.
The small french kid
The small french kid Сарын өмнө
mnpost.info/zone/iJnapJirfJOXen4/video LEAK OF PROOF ON VOTER FRAUD
Thomas Pomeroy
Thomas Pomeroy Сарын өмнө
I would love to see Anthony Esolen on your program. He has many books on Education, he translated the Divine comedy, he writes for many periodicals: He would be great to do "Paradise Lost". I really enjoy listening to him. PS: this was a great show I enjoyed this one very much. I think Bishop Baron is a great guest.
Daresa
Daresa Сарын өмнө
I like Michael, but I definitively don't like a bishop that teaches that hell is empty, so he is contradicting Our Lady of Fatima, better to look for a more catholic and faithful bishop like Schneider, Vigano, Strickland etc, not a "celebrity" priest
Lerian V
Lerian V Сарын өмнө
He never taught that hell is empty, neither has he contradicted the Church on anything. You have been deceived.
Karl Strauss
Karl Strauss Сарын өмнө
Do City of God next
KV ART
KV ART Сарын өмнө
Barron, Knowles? Really? Why are you interviewing modernists?
KV ART
KV ART Сарын өмнө
@The Best of Mae lol, where did I say anything about Taylor Marshall??? Last time I checked he isn’t a prelate, and Michael claims to be Trad and attends TLM, so some of us are simply wondering why he would choose someone who is a big ole modernist, who has contradicted scripture on numerous occasions, and who has turned the faith into nothing but a cash cow. He’s a modernist pretending to be Trad and I can forgive people who are not Catholics for buying it (JBP, for example, or Shapiro or Rubin) ... but Knowles knows better. Pro-tip: before you respond to someone with a sentence that starts off with “So you think” “So you’re saying” etc .... stop yourself because you’re likely about to make an assumption and therefore say something breathtakingly stupid. Cathy Newman is not someone to emulate lmao.
The Best of Mae
The Best of Mae Сарын өмнө
So you think Taylor Marshall-ish are the only ones credible to talk about the Bible?
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
Why not
CSSML
CSSML Сарын өмнө
Reasonable hope, he says. READ THE BIBLE BISHOP
Lerian V
Lerian V Сарын өмнө
@CSSML Spoken like a leftist. Way to go buddy, make up facts and slander the bishop.
CSSML
CSSML Сарын өмнө
@mike oh I didn't watch it (got me). I dont listen to prelates who suggest that Hell is empty. Our Lady of Fatima says otherwise...
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
So tell me what he said that was untrue in this video.
CSSML
CSSML Сарын өмнө
Booooooooooooooooo
Obag Najul
Obag Najul Сарын өмнө
Biden
Joseph Albatross
Joseph Albatross Сарын өмнө
Can you do Exodus next, and so on? :) :)
名字随机
名字随机 Сарын өмнө
My favorite part of genesis is chapter 38 where Judah thinks his daughter in law is a prostitute so he has sex with her and then tries to damn her for it before she proves to him that he was the one who took her virginity. It's up there with Judges 19, one of my favorite things the Bible has but no one discusses because it unravels their erroneous perception of christianity
B Berlage
B Berlage Сарын өмнө
@名字随机 This is a false Bishop Barron account. A number of these have cropped up trying to scam people for money.
名字随机
名字随机 Сарын өмнө
@Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp sorry but I don't like funding twisted efforts toward perverting the message of christianity with homophobia and sexism, especially when it is involved in an attempts at exploiting the vulnerability of countries destroyed by colonialism
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Сарын өмнө
Child of God Almighty, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOOD SAMARITAN MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help these orphanage. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit faith of the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life, God bless you
John Spinelli
John Spinelli Сарын өмнө
Yes! Im so happy Fr. Barron was on the show!
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Сарын өмнө
Child of God Almighty, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOOD SAMARITAN MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help these orphanage. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit faith of the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life, God bless you...
MrZacchery
MrZacchery Сарын өмнө
mnpost.info/zone/d9anlrmrebhkaGk/video
Josh Y
Josh Y Сарын өмнө
Next we need to have MacArthur on for Romans. Please!
Lerian V
Lerian V Сарын өмнө
@Josh Y I don't feel offended just because people disagree with me. I see it as an opportunity to scrutinize my belief because I want to believe only what is true without error. If we are coming from different presuppositions that means that one of us is objectively wrong. Right?
Josh Y
Josh Y Сарын өмнө
Obviously we are coming from different presuppositions... based on your page youre Catholic and I’m Protestant. We will disagree. Sorry if I offended you.
Lerian V
Lerian V Сарын өмнө
"Like this guy didn’t..." No, he didn't.
Lerian V
Lerian V Сарын өмнө
He might teach error.
Shane Hurst
Shane Hurst Сарын өмнө
Exquisite.
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Сарын өмнө
Child of God Almighty, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOOD SAMARITAN MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help these orphanage. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit faith of the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life, God bless you
Jonathan Green
Jonathan Green Сарын өмнө
Glad they didn’t get divisive with that one controversy which conflicts with the popular theory.
Chris Antonello
Chris Antonello Сарын өмнө
No better way to start my day than listening to two intellectuals discuss the most important book of mankind.
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Сарын өмнө
Child of God Almighty, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOOD SAMARITAN MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help these orphanage. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit faith of the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life, God bless you...
Cachin Nation
Cachin Nation Сарын өмнө
That half hour discussion in Genesis can set you up for a lifetime of study and discovery. EXCELLENT
Dead Already
Dead Already Сарын өмнө
What a Blessing. Love hearing wisdom about wisdom. What a treat. Many Blessings to you & those you love. Happiest of Holidays.
mcmemmo
mcmemmo Сарын өмнө
The Word of God is not a book, but a PERSON named Jesus, and Jesus loved the outcasts & sinners. Knowles seems to just want to criticize everyone. He needs to be less judgemental. The world is much less racist, sexist and bigoted than it was 50 years ago. Love of neighbor has been internalized by the younger generation even if they are like the sheep in Mathew 25: 37-39 and do not recognize the Lord in the people they comfort & serve. Sadly, in the era of Trump, mean-spirited & prideful white Evangelicals and RadTrad Catholics have become unrecognizable as Christians. They need to break away from his cult of hate.
Ferdinand VonZeppelin
Ferdinand VonZeppelin Сарын өмнө
Christ (and the apostles) spoke about all the people and events in Genesis as being real and not in any way mythical or allegorical. If you follow Christ, you should do likewise.
Lerian V
Lerian V Сарын өмнө
The people and events in Genesis as real but not written to be understood literally. If I wrote a poem about my wife that said, "your love arrested me and handcuffed me to you forever," the reader would have to understand that I existed, and that my wife existed as well. And that love which I wrote about was a real thing... but the reader would not understand it to mean that love put a real handcuff on me and physically chained be to my wife.
Vanesa
Vanesa Сарын өмнө
Jesus is Lord! The only Savior! The reality of Abraham, Noah, Israel, Joseph, Malkizadek, David, etc.!
John Rosas
John Rosas Сарын өмнө
Yeah Robert barron is a globalist Dolanite. Not one I would consider a intellectual influence of note but instead of notoriety.
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
Well. Did you find anything he said in this video lacking in intelligence?
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Сарын өмнө
Child of God Almighty, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOOD SAMARITAN MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help these orphanage. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit faith of the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life, God bless you
Light House
Light House Сарын өмнө
Got a lot from this 30 minutes. Praise the Lord!
Ivan Hamilton
Ivan Hamilton Сарын өмнө
Genesis has it all: sex, violence, contradictions, insults to women, absurdities, conflicts with science and history, you name it. God says that if Adam eats from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, then the day that he does so, he will die. But Adam eats the forbidden fruit (3:6) and yet lives for another 930 years (5:5). A drunken Lot impregnates his daughters. 19:30-36 Put your hand under my thigh (testicles) and swear. 24:2, 47:29 The great baby-making contest. 30:1-23 Reuben has sex with his father's concubine. 35:22 Onan spills his seed; God kills Onan. 38:9-10 Judah impregnates his daughter in law. 38:16-18 God brought a seven-year, "very grievous" famine on the whole earth for no apparent reason (except maybe to make Joseph wealthy). 41:56
Bob G.
Bob G. Сарын өмнө
@Ivan Hamilton, maybe it shouldn't be flawed, but it is. A lot of hands have translated it from multiple languages, and the first copies were done by hand by many different people. Given the labor involved and the lack of technology, They did a pretty good job. In the garden, Adam had access to the presence of God. That requires purity, so when Adam transgresses God's instruction he no longer qualifies to be in God's presence. That is called spiritual death. That is the death God spoke of. Not only did he "die" but he also became as the gods, meaning he became aware of the difference between good and evil. At that point, they could move forward and live. Their transgression was actually a very brave decision. We would not be here if they had not.
Ivan Hamilton
Ivan Hamilton Сарын өмнө
@mike Proud to be an atheist!
Ivan Hamilton
Ivan Hamilton Сарын өмнө
@mike The bible should not be flawed. God would not show himself through a book.
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
So a story about flawed people. what's your point? Logic isn't too strong with this atheist
charles mahoney
charles mahoney Сарын өмнө
Please consider what I am saying. the man that is being interviewed is messed up he is asking you to believe what he conjured up in his mind I am not saying he is dumb but you and many are being missed led. A good teacher will teach you how to think for yourself. so here are a few questions hoping to get you on the right track .so here it goes where does the bible come from the majority of what is in the bible today. It the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts what or how do you check out let's say. in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth- now pair it up with the original in the manuscripts - what else can you do,, now words had a different meaning in that language, you have English classes for words that are in English what did these words mean in Hebrew what else do you have to go by? what happens is a person who has a degree will tell you this is what I THINK. why can it not be what the words say? the English are not so good at saying what was really said. if I have offended anyone that was not my intention
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
No thanks.
topcat890
topcat890 Сарын өмнө
I should go back to church. But. I have no woman to go with
topcat890
topcat890 Сарын өмнө
@Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp I still need a woman
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
Find one there
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Сарын өмнө
Child of God Almighty, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOOD SAMARITAN MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help these orphanage. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit faith of the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life, God bless you
calvin musgrove
calvin musgrove Сарын өмнө
loved how the Bishop put it together
Danny Gray
Danny Gray 26 өдрийн өмнө
He got most of it wrong
Zut Alors!
Zut Alors! Сарын өмнө
I hope to see a discussion between the Bishop and Dennis.
Zut Alors!
Zut Alors! Сарын өмнө
@Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp ... Psst... the REAL profile of Barron is with a CAPITOL B... you're a fake account!!
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Сарын өмнө
Child of God Almighty, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOOD SAMARITAN MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help these orphanage. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit faith of the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life, God bless you...
Creeper1000TZ
Creeper1000TZ Сарын өмнө
HAIL SATAN
Creeper1000TZ
Creeper1000TZ Сарын өмнө
@mike kinda creepy considering you are a grown man
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
Edgy kid is edgy. Wanna cookie?
Red Blaze
Red Blaze Сарын өмнө
He's the obvious good guy in the Bible.
domhnall777
domhnall777 Сарын өмнө
Bishop Robert Barron seems like a sincere guy... but the Judeo-Christian creation myth has no more merit than the Native American creation myth, the Muslim creation myth, the Ancient Greek creation myth, the Hindu creation myth, etc.
domhnall777
domhnall777 Сарын өмнө
@mike so the creation myth that you believe in is the one that is true? What a convenient coincidence. I guess a billion Hindus need “more study” to help them understand too.
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
Not true. But maybe more study would help you understand
Publia 2.0
Publia 2.0 Сарын өмнө
How about Boethius' Consolations of Philosophy? Thomas Aquinas? City of God by St. Augustine? More Shakespeare?
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Сарын өмнө
Child of God Almighty, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOOD SAMARITAN MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help these orphanage. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit faith of the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life, God bless you...
rhampton6600
rhampton6600 Сарын өмнө
K L A V A N there are no E's in THINKR
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Сарын өмнө
Child of God Almighty, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOOD SAMARITAN MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help these orphanage. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit faith of the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life, God bless you...
Victoria Zurich
Victoria Zurich Сарын өмнө
As a Protestant, I really enjoy Bishop Barron. Thank you for this!
Rafa Gambardella
Rafa Gambardella 5 өдрийн өмнө
I would just remark that we as protestants tend to see the ark itself as Jesus, only in Him we are saved.
Rafa Gambardella
Rafa Gambardella 5 өдрийн өмнө
ME TOO!
Nathan Lewis
Nathan Lewis Сарын өмнө
He is good. May you come home to the Catholic Church. Bishop Barron can show you why you should.
Forrest Leaves
Forrest Leaves Сарын өмнө
Bishop Barron: BOOOOOOOOOO from the Netherlands
sledgenwedge
sledgenwedge Сарын өмнө
Unpacking Genesis what a joke, simple fact is, he created us from dust to serve him !!!nothing more nothing less!!! anything else receives hell as its reward. Free will, a joke from a cruel God.... created to perish at his whims... animated dust nothing more nothing less no importance he is a regarder of no persons.
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
Not sure about your theology
My public channel
My public channel Сарын өмнө
If you really want to impress me, Robert, then belt out "La Marseilles" en francais, like I can. Not even the French teachers where I teach part time can say the same. Sorry to see your comradeship with these alt-right neo-nazis. You might even find it unsettling, wondering where you lost your soul along the way. Maybe you shouldn't assume you had one to lose. I'm 20,000 years beyond you officious, little, rugrats but willing to scoop you out from your primodial malaise and elevate you to human being status on demand. Just say when. At this point in the ballgame, you two gringos know absolutely nothing. Sensational stupidity.
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
Can you type more? I need sandpaper.
My public channel
My public channel Сарын өмнө
His excellency? What? I want to be an excellency. What do I do? Take a pill? Stare at my nose in a mirror? Count backwards from 10,000? Would I need a closet-full of dresses? Do I get matching heels and handbags? The bible is the basis of our whole civilization? Get outta here. Really? You should stand on a streetcorner in Islamabad with a megaphone and spout such epic news. Only, bring a basket to carry your head home. It's truly inspiring to listen to two equally witless sheep pontificate in absolute terms. You guys gotta be worth your weights in goose down. Now, Robert, don't you think you've been selfish way too long, keeping your sensational knowledge set hidden from the academic world? Shouldn't you be granted a tenured professorship at MIT and teach your cosmology mumbo jumbo with all these elite minds gathered at your feet who scored an average of 1550 on their SAT's? Think about it. Instead of amassing an army of witless little wind-up clones with the IQ's of poppy seeds, like Knowlsey Boy, you could be the big man on campus at MIT! Doesn't that sound great!
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
Haha well you kind of debunked your whole argument when you brought up the middle east. Haha
Quantus Tremor Est Futurus
Quantus Tremor Est Futurus Сарын өмнө
0:12 : "The very beginning of wisdom... the book of genesis". I spat my tea through the nose. The very first sentence is already a factual error, as at its creation, Earth was very much in the light but had no water. It even emitted light, due to its high temperature. The Sun being created after plants and the plants before or after humans (Genesis 1:11-13 vs 1:27-31) , animals created before or after human (1:25-27 vs 2:18-19); heaven on the first or second day (1:1 vs 1:6-8), light created after the Sun. Yeah that totally makes sense, sooooo wise! 2:30 : I'll have to agree that the Bible is very much based on preexisting myths. 3:30 : the myths about Jupiter and his family are the bases of one of the most prosperous and powerful civilizations ever, the Roman Empire, and it began collapsing by the moment they converted to christianism. Our modern society didn't get built thanks to christianism, but despite christianism. The first scientists faced death by the Church, and only after christianism lost all its political power did science begin to bloom! 6:30 : wow I had to listen again, that makes no sense! And again, the Church consistently fought any scientific research, considering it contrary to the Bible. If the intended effect was promoting science, god did one shitty job!! 7:15 : I can agree. The violence is only after the creation in the bible. And there is sooo much of it! Genocide, mass raping, slavery, incest, ask for anything nasty, it's in it, perpetrated by a very holy man or god itself. 11:50 : yeah forbidding the fruit of knowledge is definitely a way of promoting science, stands to reason! 16:00 : mass genocide made cool, and also what did this achieve? By the way, what does make the Devil the bad guy? I've never ever heard of the Devil committing any bad deed, unlike god, maybe you should worship him. 17:50 : yeah, god can rescue you from the mass genocide he brought unto you, soooo kind! 18:55 : think of religion as producing a dysfunctional family. A family where Jesus has come "to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his own household.". That's why you believers need some that comes outside this family to understand how deleterious that is. 20:15 : the new David or Abraham. So David, the biggest mass murderer in the Bible, or Abraham who wanted to sacrifice his own child? The bible encourages human sacrifice, look up Judges 11. Well it also forbids it, the god described in those books is a sick sociopath... 26:05 : so God sent you a cure to cancer, if he wants to rescue us? That really would help us! I'd like to hear of someone who actually thinks that this book promoting human sacrifice, genocide, killing children and many more is the basis of their morals. PS: Your sponsor proposes "non fiction books" ? No bible then?
Quantus Tremor Est Futurus
Quantus Tremor Est Futurus Сарын өмнө
@mike please explain what is false, otherwise it will look like you simply refuse to see the evidence that you're wrong.
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
False arguments are false. Great bait though. Haha
Jim Cook
Jim Cook Сарын өмнө
Heavenly to see Bishop Barron AND Michael Knowles discussing the Bible together.
이상윤10115
이상윤10115 Сарын өмнө
I bought the Genesis G80 This is the second most expensive car in South Korea And this car is compared to many cars Kia K9 Lexus Es300h Mercedes Benz E class BMW 5 series Audi A6 Jaguar XF Cadillac CTS Lincoln MKZ Volvo S90
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
Bad joke is bad
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Сарын өмнө
Child of God Almighty, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOOD SAMARITAN MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help these orphanage. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit faith of the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life, God bless you
Pet Wifey, Voice of Reason
Pet Wifey, Voice of Reason Сарын өмнө
Thank you so much for covering Genesis. I know you will do the other books of the bible, but in the midst of those, could you Please cover the Satyricon? PLEASE! I Must see a review of the Satyricon!
Pet Wifey, Voice of Reason
Pet Wifey, Voice of Reason Сарын өмнө
@Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Effing Bot. --- LOL. Just kidding. I do appreciate it, though. I will give to charity since you asked me to. Okay, have a nice day now! Bye!
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Сарын өмнө
Child of God Almighty, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOOD SAMARITAN MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help these orphanage. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit faith of the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life, God bless you...
Sun Shine
Sun Shine Сарын өмнө
Jesus is the sun.
Sun Shine
Sun Shine 21 өдрийн өмнө
@mike SUN
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
*SON
Mr.Astronuts
Mr.Astronuts Сарын өмнө
Bounced on my boy's sun to this
Lou
Lou Сарын өмнө
Come on Knowles... I thought you were a traditional Catholic. Why on Earth would you pick Barron of all people?
Lou
Lou Сарын өмнө
@Daresa he's claimed to be.
Daresa
Daresa Сарын өмнө
Is Knowles a traditional catholic?
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
Why not? Dude spoke well about genesis . That was his job. and he performed.
John MacMillan
John MacMillan Сарын өмнө
OMG .... “His Exellency” how dare you call him this. Not even Jesus was called “Exellency” This is obscene.
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
Well that term wasn't used back in those days. Soooo
Leonardo Arruda
Leonardo Arruda Сарын өмнө
We called Judges"your honor" as well, we call drill sergeants "sir"...
Jim Goodwin
Jim Goodwin Сарын өмнө
"The descent of the heavenly Jerusalem...It's the rightly ordered creation but expressed as a city all engaged in right praise." Utopia. This is why I struggle with religion.
Mutundwe Christian Fellowship
Mutundwe Christian Fellowship Сарын өмнө
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Victor Bergman
Victor Bergman Сарын өмнө
"Biblical illiteracy is at an all-time high" Then what are we arguing about? PragerU change the description
Victor Bergman
Victor Bergman Сарын өмнө
@Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp I see good man how you want to be like the Bishop but am not you're not the real Bishop
Victor Bergman
Victor Bergman Сарын өмнө
@Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp sir are you the real Robert Barron?
Victor Bergman
Victor Bergman Сарын өмнө
@Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp thank you sir
Joseph Albatross
Joseph Albatross Сарын өмнө
When the Bible seems an absurd telling of mankind, it is because we do not truly see ourselves as we really are. It is absurd, because we are absurd.
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Сарын өмнө
Child of God Almighty, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOOD SAMARITAN MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help these orphanage. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit faith of the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life, God bless you...
James Rivera
James Rivera Сарын өмнө
Great discussion on Genesis. A lot of insight and information to meditate on. Thank you for sharing video. 🙏🙏🙏
Hunter McCaskill
Hunter McCaskill Сарын өмнө
"The Bible was written by a bunch of people who couldn't even rEaD!!!!!" Wow, that makes it all the more impressive if you ask me
Thomas Lanham
Thomas Lanham 15 өдрийн өмнө
The BIBLE was not written by men , it was inspired (GOD Breathed ) through men !
Red Blaze
Red Blaze Сарын өмнө
Stories back then were told orally at first. I think that is what the argument ment. But it is accurate to say that the stories were written by primitive people who didn't understand the world they were living in.
domhnall777
domhnall777 Сарын өмнө
That was an attempt to dodge... it’s quite obvious that illiterate people didn’t write anything. But the authors of the Old Testament were goat herders 3000 years ago... of course they didn’t know where the sun went at night
Abhishek Joseph
Abhishek Joseph Сарын өмнө
Wow🔥
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Сарын өмнө
Child of God Almighty, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOOD SAMARITAN MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help these orphanage. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit faith of the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life, God bless you
Manny Azusano
Manny Azusano Сарын өмнө
Thank you for the wonderful review. Deep, yet engaging.
pheidipp
pheidipp Сарын өмнө
So great to have Bishop Barron in to evaluate this. Inspired choice!
Danny Gray
Danny Gray 26 өдрийн өмнө
@Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp that is honestly the most disgusting comment I've seen on here. I seriously hope this person doesn't take your "blessing" seriously. You're nothing but a troll.
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Сарын өмнө
Child of God Almighty, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOOD SAMARITAN MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help these orphanage. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit faith of the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life, God bless you...
AG meiss
AG meiss Сарын өмнө
Thank you for this. We forget that it was God that gave us all this.
Red Blaze
Red Blaze Сарын өмнө
Your god has not been proven to be real.
Yasha V
Yasha V Сарын өмнө
Thank you Bishop Barron. ברוכים תהיו בשם ה׳
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Сарын өмнө
Child of God Almighty, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOOD SAMARITAN MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help these orphanage. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit faith of the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life, God bless you
Wayne Bender
Wayne Bender Сарын өмнө
That was a fantastic explanation of the Book of Genesis.🙂✝️🛐
Danny Gray
Danny Gray 26 өдрийн өмнө
Yeah... he got most of it wrong.
Red Blaze
Red Blaze Сарын өмнө
The Bible is not the whole basis of our civilization. The roots of western civilization came form ancient Rome and Greece.
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
Where did they end up?
DarianFisher
DarianFisher Сарын өмнө
I don't trust this Bishop at all due to his past globalist modernist statements. Please stick with 100% Catholic prelates like Schneider, Burke, Vigano Etc.
Daresa
Daresa Сарын өмнө
Totally agree these priests are the equivalent of the left within the Church
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
Wait. I thought catholic meant universal. Hmmmmmm sounds like you're in need of a bit of study
Quantus Tremor Est Futurus
Quantus Tremor Est Futurus Сарын өмнө
Cancel culture is a plague
David Webster
David Webster Сарын өмнө
Nice job killing my post. Again that interpretation of the ark is some catholic imagination. When you hear a tight neck talking metaphorically, don't walk away, Run!
suvignan pothuraju
suvignan pothuraju Сарын өмнө
Genesis has no historical evidence particularly about NOAH'S ark , Abraham and so on.
domhnall777
domhnall777 Сарын өмнө
@mike the burden of proof is on the person making the affirmative claim. How do you prove that UFOs don’t exist?
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
Prove it?
domhnall777
domhnall777 Сарын өмнө
Never met a taking snake???
Red Blaze
Red Blaze Сарын өмнө
The same goes for most of the Bible
A LeBlanc
A LeBlanc Сарын өмнө
Nooooo not Barron!!! 😔
Ther Storbob
Ther Storbob Сарын өмнө
Please, more of this.
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Сарын өмнө
Child of God Almighty, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOOD SAMARITAN MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help these orphanage. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit faith of the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life, God bless you...
Hide Steiner
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The power is stronger closer to the source.
Hide Steiner
Hide Steiner Сарын өмнө
@Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp only He sends the good and the bad. Only He takes the good and the bad away.
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Сарын өмнө
Child of God Almighty, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOOD SAMARITAN MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help these orphanage. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit faith of the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life, God bless you...
Luke Salazar
Luke Salazar Сарын өмнө
Aaannnddd Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself
mog3
mog3 Сарын өмнө
Do we really still live in a world where intelligent people believe that Genesis/The Bible, full of inconsistencies, full of unrelatable ideas, written by relatively speaking uneducated bronze age men trying to make sense of the world, with insurmountable biases.... is inspired by the word of an all powerful, all knowing yet personal being that created a universe so unfathomably large, but still cares about us deeply....yet let women and children die in droves in childbirth/childhood for thousands of years.
mog3
mog3 Сарын өмнө
@mike poor little brainwashed man. I was once like you
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
Bronzed aged, check All powerful, check People dying, check. Yep. all the atheist false arguments
Margo Margo
Margo Margo Сарын өмнө
Not Barton👎
mike
mike Сарын өмнө
Luckily Barton was busy today
Allan Agravante
Allan Agravante Сарын өмнө
two of my favorite people
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp
Prophet Sam Alu Alo Jp Сарын өмнө
Child of God Almighty, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God ministered to me in a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding onto them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay in your life, with an evil mirror, and with motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford or give to these motherless foundation (GOOD SAMARITAN MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state Nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact wherever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Ask for their acct details and help these orphanage. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit faith of the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life, God bless you
Maciek Pasowicz
Maciek Pasowicz Сарын өмнө
Thanks for a great conversation! The Genesis is an unbelievable piece of writing. I love it ❤
Red Blaze
Red Blaze Сарын өмнө
Unbelievable for being filled with weird stories and contradictions.
Moises Policart
Moises Policart Сарын өмнө
I believe that it would be very awesome to watch Bishop Robert Barron with Dennis Prager and compare their notes.
John R.T.B.
John R.T.B. Сарын өмнө
Thank you for the true Church, the Catholic Church. Thank you Bishop Barron.
Lerian V
Lerian V 6 өдрийн өмнө
​@TheNabOwnzz The Calvinist tradition is man-made. You have no truth because you contradict Scripture. Convenient also how you cannot explain how the church is not the pillar and foundation of truth. We have already established that Calvinists are a heretic sect excommunicated from the Body of Christ. So, you can keep repeating this nonsense all you want, the fact that Protestantism is so anti Scriptural already debunks all of this. I'm well aware Protestants are under the delusion that Catholics somehow pray to image instead of God. Again, Scripture and tradition debunk that. Isaiah 42:8 makes it clear that you can't worship an image. James 4:24 makes it clear that worship is not in things of the hands of men, but in spirit. The entire notion of Christianity is to worship God the way he instructed the church, not the way some excommunicated rebels in the church instructed. It doesn't take an Einstein to see the erroneous interpretation of Calvinism here. Get rid of your delusion that the 500 year old Calvinist sect is infallible, and you'll quickly see that the Catholic Church is THE one true church founded by Jesus Christ. The Calvinist sect is not the pillar and foundation of truth, that's the Catholic Church. Seriously... all your denials are based on baseless sentiments and suppositions, because the verses I mentioned are very applicable to those people I named, lmao. Again, look at the false doctrines of Calvinism. The fact that the Catholic Church compiled the Bible means everything, the pillar and foundation of truth cannot contradict the teachings entrusted to her by her founder and Head, Jesus Christ. It was only when Protestants began to write them in native languages that people became their own church magisterium and pope rather than defer to THE church magisterium and the pope. There are tens of thousands of misguided "believers" out there courtesy of Protestantism (Luther, Calvin, et al). Your arguments are repetitive and based on baseless conjecture. It's funny too because the Apostles and their first successors clearly shared the Catholic views more than they did Calvinist. It's called ''Catholic'' because it is universal. It meets all four hallmarks of Christ's church - one, holy, catholic and apostolic. So, must be right and Protestantism false. Authentic religion transcends politics. God transcends political categories. It is true that man-made religions like Protestantism does not transcend political systems, but true Christianity has an idea, has views, and that is inherently not sequestered by politics. These views are both conservative and progressive, and thus they are not sequestered by right wing or left wing. That is, the true Christian church. Any other is not the true Christian church. Exalting sinful humans is very wicked in itself, and especially when they are mentioned above the divine Christ. But using demeaning words to insult the blessed Mother of God who was saved and protected from sin will not be taken lightly by her Son. You are clearly insulting her under the guise of attempting to debunk the worthiness of the honor given to her first by God and then by his mystical Body, the Church. Coarseness is typical Protestantism (check out Luther and Calvin's biographies and works associated with them). The virgin Mary is no ordinary woman, she is the mother of our Lord and Savior. She bore the Incarnate Word of God in her womb and raised him to adulthood. You will earn yourself a curse from her Son if you continue on this path. Her intercession alone saved the wedding at Cana from wine drought even though her Son complained that his "hour has not yet come." Scripture reveals that she is the "Ark of the Lord" (2 Samuel 6:9; Luke 1:43). John the Baptist "leaped for joy" at the salutation of Mary in Luke 1:44, just as King David "danced before the Lord" before the Ark of the Lord in 2 Samuel 6:14. Mary "remained with [Elizabeth] for three months" in Luke 1:56 just as "the ark of the Lord remained in the house of Obed-Edom the Gittite for three months" in 2 Samuel 6:11. The Incarnation of the Word was a unique event, and Mary was the only human person involved. No other human but Mary contributed to Jesus’ human nature. It does not take intellectual rigor to understand that Mary’s fiat (Latin for “let it be done”) signals that she was free in her response to the angel. The implications of this are staggering: when Mary said “let it be,” she gave God free rein to come into the world through her to save mankind. She cooperated with God’s grace to give birth to our divine Lord and Savior of the world. The Calvinist man-made doctrine of double predestination is false according to the Pillar and Foundation of truth. Yes, God knows from all eternity who will accept his gift of salvation and who will reject it. Now, to be able to grasp further, you have to teleport your thinking from this spacetime into God's eternity. In this eternal realm of God everything is in the "present" (eternal "now"). So, God doesn’t have to wait for history to unfold as we mere humans do to find out what is going to happen. Otherwise, he wouldn’t be God. Next move, God’s knowledge of how we will choose does not entail that he is willfully predetermining how we will choose; He allows our free will (again remember that our past, present and future choices do not unfold before Him in a linear time form, rather, they are "present" to Him because He sees the all of history in one [eternal] gaze. At this point, the blasphemous nature of Calvin's "dreadful doctrine" becomes evidently clear: God who is supposed to be all good is ultimately responsible for those who go to hell, not the sinners themselves. A mere human parent desires that all of her children be saved. How much more the creator God? Scripture affirms that God desires the salvation of all mankind (1 Timothy 2:4, 2 Peter 3:9), and that those who go to hell choose to exclude themselves from him and his heavenly kingdom (Matthew 7:13-14, 25:31-46). These passages from Matthew affirm that man is not saved by God’s grace through "faith alone," contrary to what Martin Luther taught, but through faith and good works, NOT works of the [Old Testament] Law (James 2:14-26). In the words of the Bishop of Hippo, St. Augustine: "God created us without us, but he did not will to save us without us." Predestination - mnpost.info/zone/lryYfqyvrtOEsGE/video Calvinist DESTROYS Calvinist on John 6:44 - mnpost.info/zone/l6zFgNzXoJV7i6g/video {"I knew you'd bring up James 2:24, which is the usual go-to argument, but what this entails is the fact that through faith alone one will be compelled only to good works. What the Apostle is saying is that those of little faith do not do good works, consequently rendering it futile, but that is only meant as awareness that they do not have enough faith. Good works do not bring salvation, they only come from salvation, and that salvation is by faith alone. "} We are neither saved by faith alone nor good works alone. The Catholic Church teaches that you cannot work your way to heaven; you can't earn your salvation. You can't be good enough to earn heaven. We are saved by grace alone as it says in Acts 15:11. Contrary to the merely 500 year old man-made doctrine of former Rev. Fr. Martin Luther, we are not just saved by believing intellectually. Even the devil believes (James 2:19) but he doesn't live out his faith in good works; he's not obedient. So, it is the same with us; if you just believe and you don't do good works, you're not obedient to Christ. Being obedient to Christ entails not just believing but doing (Romans 2:13; Luke 6:46; Matthew 7:21; . You have to follow God's commandments, you have to eat His flesh and drink His blood as he instructed, or else you have no life within you: “Truly, truly, I tell you, unless you eat the flesh and drink the blood of the Son of Man, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55For My flesh is real food, and My blood is real drink." If you pick and choose what Jesus' word, you will not be saved. You must BELIEVE ALL that he taught and DO ALL that he instructed. Every word Jesus says is serious and must not be dispensed with (take that, John Calvin!) or deemed less important, regardless whether or not you understand it. That is the biblical principle. And for the last fatal blow to your 'faith alone' argument, read Matthew 25:31-46 and see what Jesus himself says about judgment day: "He will say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave Me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave Me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, I was naked and you did not clothe Me, I was sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’" As you can see, your works will be judged certainly, and if you are found wanting, it means that the faith you claimed to have all along was a fluke - a make-believe [fraudulent] faith - and you will go away into eternal punishment" (verse 46). For more on works being judged on the last day, see Revelation 2:23; Revelation 20:12; Revelation 22:12; Romans 2:6-7; Matthew 16:27; 2Corinthians 5:10; Galatians 6:7; Ephesians 6:8. You should really be worried about your belief in false man-made doctrines and worship of your ego (you want autonomy to pick and choose what you want the bible to say to you) rather than follow God in his infallible Church and do his will the way he instructed and not the way you find convenience. Since you do not adhere to God's commands, you will be unable to have eternal life. You deny Christ by accepting man-made tradition of Calvin who was cast out as one would a pagan or tax collector, and handed over to Satan by the Church (1 Corinthians 5:5; Matthew 18:17).
TheNabOwnzz
TheNabOwnzz 6 өдрийн өмнө
@Lerian V That tradition is man-made. You have no truth because you contradict Scripture. Convenient also how you cannot explain how Calvin contradicts it. We have already established the catholic church nowadays is very fallible, so you can keep repeating this nonsense all you want, the fact that the post modern catholic church is so anti Scriptural already debunks all of this. Not sure what this paragraph is supposed to prove. I'm well aware Catholics are under the delusion they're somehow praying to God instead of the image. Again, Scripture debunks that. Isaiah 42:8 makes it clear you can't worship Him by an image either. James 4:24 makes it clear worship is not in things of the hands of men, but in spirit. The entire notion of Christianity is to worship without seeing. It doesn't take an Einstein to see the erroneous interpretation of Catholics here. Get rid of your delusion that the catholic church is infallible, and you'll quickly see all. Another nonsense paragraph, because Catholic church is no longer the pillar and foundation of truth, that's Calvinism. Seriously... all your arguments are based on baseless and fallacious suppositions, and the verses you name are not applicable to those people you named, lmao, but to people like you. Again, look at modern state of Catholic church. Abundance of proof. The fact that they compiled the Bible means nothing, besides which they constantly contradict it. It was only when Protestants began to write them in native languages that people cognized that it was all a big joke. Same thing here... pointless paragraph. Your arguments are repetitive and based on baseless conjecture. It's funny too because the Apostles clearly shared Calvin's views more than they did Catholics. But whatever, it's called ''Catholic'' still so it must be right, right...? Right... Everything is political. Nothing transcends that. If you mean it transcends man-made political systems, sure, but Christianity has an idea, has views, and that is inherently political. These views are extremely conservative, and thus they are extremely right wing. That is, the true Christian church, the most conservative branches of Calvinism. Bla bla bla, ridiculous over exaltation of some random wench. Exalting sinful humans is very wicked in itself, and especially when they are mentioned above the divine Christ, lmao. Besides, i am not insulting her, i am insulting the satanist and nefarious overexaggeration of her worth by ridiculous Catholics. She was a woman, and that was all she was. Literally NOTHING in the Scriptures says otherwise. Ok, HOW is double predestination unBiblical? It's extremely Biblical, actually. When we have established God is omniscient, which He is, and when we have established repentance can only come by way of the Holy Ghost, which is also commonly known, double predestination becomes inherently Biblical, because He knows whom He will save and whom He will damn. No, this is again inherently Biblical. I knew you'd bring up James 2:24, which is the usual go-to argument, but what this entails is the fact that through faith alone one will be compelled only to good works. What the Apostle is saying is that those of little faith do not do good works, consequently rendering it futile, but that is only meant as awareness that they do not have enough faith. Good works do not bring salvation, they only come from salvation, and that salvation is by faith alone. As for this part, again, read my previous paragraph. You are cherry picking verses like James 2:24 out of context. You don't seem to understand a whole lot about the Bible. But then again, i am conversing with someone who thinks that eating bread means he is literally eating Christ's body. Again, you persist in maintaining this erroneous point due to your axiomatic cognitive dissonance. I'm not really worried about the promises of a follower of some satanist cult (YOU), since i adhere only to God. I will never fail to act in His favour, for i shall always confess Him before men (Matthew 10:32), but you, who deny Him and accept man-made tradition as sacred, will find Matthew 10:33 more appropriate. Therefore repent, boyo! Accept the Holy Scriptures, and not vain men. Well.. this paragraph uses the same old repetition based on the same old erroneous supposition we have already refuted, so not much to say here, especially considering you cannot name 1 single reason why Calvin contradicts the Scriptures, while Catholicism has an abundance of those. Also, i guess that the historical tyranny of the Catholic church sits well with you, lmao?
Lerian V
Lerian V 6 өдрийн өмнө
​@TheNabOwnzz Your private subjective interpretation is erroneous, we have already established that you are not the pillar and foundation of truth. Therefore, you are on the wrong side as long as you disagree with the Church's interpretation, because the Church - not you or Calvin or the bible - is the pillar and foundation of truth. The Bible has only the written truth (Scriptures). The Church has both the written and unwritten truth (Scriptures and tradition) in line with 2 Thessalonians 2:15, 3:6; 1 Corinthians 11:2. Titus 1:9 says that a Bishop (Church authority) refutes those - like John Calvin - who contradict sound doctrine. "Images are wrought by the hands of man. It is vanity, devilish superstition which must be eradicated. This is a Biblical fact." CATECHISM IV. "YOU SHALL NOT MAKE FOR YOURSELF A GRAVEN IMAGE . . ." 2129 The divine injunction included the prohibition of every representation of God by the hand of man. Deuteronomy explains: "Since you saw no form on the day that the Lord spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire, beware lest you act corruptly by making a graven image for yourselves, in the form of any figure. . . . "66 It is the absolutely transcendent God who revealed himself to Israel. "He is the all," but at the same time "he is greater than all his works."67 He is "the author of beauty."68 2130 Nevertheless, already in the Old Testament, God ordained or permitted the making of images that pointed symbolically toward salvation by the incarnate Word: so it was with the bronze serpent, the ark of the covenant, and the cherubim.69 2131 Basing itself on the mystery of the incarnate Word, the seventh ecumenical council at Nicaea (787) justified against the iconoclasts the veneration of icons - of Christ, but also of the Mother of God, the angels, and all the saints. By becoming incarnate, the Son of God introduced a new "economy" of images. 2132 The Christian veneration of images is not contrary to the first commandment which proscribes idols. Indeed, "the honor rendered to an image passes to its prototype," and "whoever venerates an image venerates the person portrayed in it."70 The honor paid to sacred images is a "respectful veneration," not the adoration due to God alone: Religious worship is not directed to images in themselves, considered as mere things, but under their distinctive aspect as images leading us on to God incarnate. The movement toward the image does not terminate in it as image, but tends toward that whose image it is.71 www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c1a1.htm Scripture can never contradict the pillar and foundation of truth the Church. The Church wrote the entire New Testament and went on to compile and canonize the Bible. 2 Thess 3:6 says the Church should shun any brother (like Luther, Calvin, Zwingli, et al) who conducts himself in a disorderly way and not according to the apostolic tradition. Romans 16:17 says the Church should watch out for those who create dissensions and obstacles (like Luther, Calvin, Zwingli, et al) in opposition to the apostolic teaching. Matthew 18:17 says that if a brother (like you or Luther, or Calvin) refuses to listen to the Church, then the Church should excommunicate him. That's exactly what the Church did to the Calvin, Luther and co 500 years ago. If you were born and raised outside the apostolic Church that excommunicated Calvin, it's not your fault. You will not be judged for being born excommunicated, BUT you will be judged for remaining excommunicated from the apostolic Church. If you are wise, you should reject the 'Gospel of Jesus Christ according to Calvin/Luther/You' and accept the 'Gospel of Jesus Christ according to the pillar and foundation of truth'. Calvinist churches are OUTSIDE the Church that Christ founded. According to scripture, being directly connected to the apostles (Apostolicism) and being universal (Catholicism) are two of the four hallmarks of the Church that Christ founded. Calvinism is from John Calvin, Lutheranism is from Martin Luther - both are excommunicated heretics. Calvinism and Lutheranism teach some true things and a lot of falsehoods, therefore, they are not the pillar and foundation of truth. Only the Catholic Church is catholic and apostolic. Therefore, only the Catholic Church is the Pillar of truth, Foundation of truth, Mystical Body of Christ, Bride of Christ, Fullness of Christ, Household of God, Noah's Ark, God's Instrument of Salvation, Holy Nation. "Christ was a radical conservative, he sought to reinstitute the law of Moses which the Pharisees had twisted. It's similar to what Protestants did with Catholicism" The Church founded by Christ transcends political categories. But if one must be expressed in such terms, the correct expression will be that the Church is all sides in their proper measure: Conservative because it conserves the true doctrine, and progressive because grounded in the true doctrine it flourishes like an oak tree growing from acorn. We can't honor the Mother of our divine Savior enough. The Ark of the covenant; the womb that harbored God; the intercessor of Cana... She is absolutely our amazing mother. The most hailed Mary ever, filled with God's grace, the most blessed amongst women. We can't honor our biological mothers enough let alone the mother of our Lord and Savior; the virgin mother of God. Bless her! I already asked for her intercession on your behalf, and to not take to heart the demeaning words of insult she is receiving from you, that it is not your fault but the fault of Martin Luther, John Calvin et al. Double predestination is unbiblical and unchristian. Jesus warns his Church in Matthew 7:15-16 to watch out against false prophets (like Arius, Sabellius, Zwingli, Luther, Calvin, yourself, James White, Todd Friel, Ray Comfort, Emeal Zwayne... all protestants) who come in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ferocious wolves. Jesus says that these false prophets can be recognized by their fruits. The beliefs and teachings of Martin Luther mnpost.info/zone/h7XOrNLXarKenYI/video and John Calvin mnpost.info/zone/Z6mWn6fQq9h3i3I/video clearly prove Jesus' point. "And yes, only faith can bring you salvation. This is again, inherently Biblical. I'd like to see you try and debunk these, lmao." Another one of the multitude of false doctrines in Protestantism. This one is easily refuted in the Bible: James 2:24 says that "a person is justified by works and not by faith alone." Paul in (Romans 3:20, 28; Galatians 2:16) says that "a man is justified by faith apart from works of the law." Are these two apostles contradicting themselves? Absolutely not. "Works of the Law" (Old Testament Laws like circumcision) does not save BUT works of faith (charity/good works). We are justified by faith certainly, but not by faith alone. The following two questions will expose your false Protestant doctrine: 1. If a person has faith but does not have works can that faith save him? YES or NO? 2. Do you agree that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone? YES or NO? Is the zinger in James 2:20 in your protestant Bible or did Martin Luther succeed in removing it? "O foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is worthless?" mnpost.info/zone/l7u1qsi7rM-JmaQ/video I'd like to see you try and debunk these, lmao. You might pretend to not worry about holding fast to the already refuted false doctrine of Calvin and co, but I guarantee you that you will worry about it when judgment comes. Excommunication means handing a disobedient church member over to the devil by the church. That is what the Church did to Calvin, Luther and other rebels. Your eternity is at stake. Join the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church and live a full Christian life which God wants his people to live. Jump out of Calvin's boat and enter Christ's ship. "WHY is Calvin not the one? Because the church said so? But the church is not the one either... the Scriptures said so." Calvin is not the one because the church says so. Scripture says that the church (not scripture) is the pillar and foundation of truth. Scripture also says the church is the final arbiter in any disagreement in the church. Luther, Calvin, Zwingli, Arius, Sabellius, Marcion, et al made themselves pillars and foundations of their own truths, not God's truth. The Video that made James White GO BALLISTIC - mnpost.info/zone/rN6nmMq7ZZiZgZg/video On The Development of Christian Doctrine - mnpost.info/zone/abO_hLLFi6xmg4o/video Beyond the Left and the Right - mnpost.info/zone/dsm4Z7PUfq2ff5Q/video
TheNabOwnzz
TheNabOwnzz 7 өдрийн өмнө
​@Lerian V Your interpretation is erroneous, we have established that already. Catholicism is based on a man-made church, not Scripture. It contradicts that incessantly. You don't think images are His likeness? Then why do you worship them? Also, if you admit they aren't His likeness, you are admitting to not worshipping Him. Images are wrought by the hands of man. It is vanity, devilish superstition which must be eradicated. This is a Biblical fact. They don't contradict it? Why not? You conveniently fail to explain that. All of them make it abundantly clear worship of idols is forbidden. If the church accepts those verses it contradicts itself... it's as simple as that. The thing is, boyo, you're stuck in this delusion that this Papist institution is somehow ''infallible'' despite the fact that its adherence to Scripture is basically naught, not to mention the interminable suppositions it has made by things that in no way could ever be taken out of the Scriptures. It's a stupid fantasy, a chimerical mirage. The Bible and church cannot both be infallible, because they are considerably different. That is why some of the more right wing, conservative Calvinist churches are the ones who still maintain His church. NOT Catholicism. Again, not sure if you're trolling, but this is quite clear. I know John 4:24 and 2 Corinthians 5:7 don't directly have anything to do with it... i even mentioned that in my prior post, boyo. But they nonetheless utterly debunk catholicism, because the moment that you condescend to bring yourself to worship the workmanship of men (idols) is the moment you have lost all sense of spirituality and transcendency. That is why it says that you worship in spirit, boyo, not in the flesh. What you worship is nothing physical, it is spiritual. My lack of knowledge...? My, my, we are not resorting to ad hominems, are we? Well... this doesn't surprise me. Also, nobody bows TO a Bible... which you so astutely confirmed by saying that they would merely have it in hand. To idolatrous images, however, you boyos do bow. Again this reference seems to hold zero relevance to the matter at hand. Bowing isn't religious worship either, stupid reference. And Numbers 21:8 is again, not a statue meant for religious worship. You're trying to bar the fact that i'm speaking the truth by way of these completely irrelevant digressions, it's really laughable. Yes, worshipping images is having other gods. But you don't seem to realize that the image is always a god. The image is an image, always a god to the worshipper, it does not signify anything. You are accepting the image as a god, not God Himself, despite the fact that you boyos sincerely believe that you are not doing anything wrong. And that Hezekiah part you mentioned basically confirms my point. Your images are your gods. They have turned your brain into mush. Really, how does it debunk the 'faith alone' thing? The heresy is believing good works can bribe you into the Kingdom of Heaven. To proclaim otherwise is unBiblical. I have already debunked it... look at Scripture and compare to Catholicism, obvious conclusion is that that isn't it anymore, but a heathen institution instead. Look at the most conservative circles of Calvinism, and lo and behold, it is the same as the Scriptures. There, debunked. Bla bla bla bla, satan schmatan. Do you even realize you're supporting the literal church wrought by the hands of satan? That this is a whorish, devilish, extremely anti Christian institution? Again, read Scriptures. ''almost every learned Protestant pastor knows this.'' WHAT? WHAT?.... Ok... now you're really clutching at straws... again, the Scriptures debunk almost the entirety of Catholicism save for certain things like the existence of the Trinity... it really is laughable. You have yet to give arguments to the contrary. I have given you multiple as to why catholicism is erroneous. ''programmed by modernism''.... wait a minute... you are the one who said ''Christ is a God of progress'' earlier, right? Who is programmed by modernism? Christ was a radical conservative, he sought to reinstitute the law of Moses which the Pharisees had twisted. It's similar to what Protestants did with Catholicism, since they sought to reinstitute the true Law instead of the heathen pagan man-made one of the Catholics. Anyone with a smidgen of historical knowledge knows that the Catholic church is the church of tyranny, despotism, genocide, murder, pedophilia, rape, and much more. No, you actually honor her far TOO much, lmao. You will commit me into her tender hands? She has no hands to grant me, because she is just a wench. She is nothing divine. This is like saying i could be committed into the hands of any random wench. Rebellion against Jesus? Coming from the one opposed to His teachings? Unlikely, especially since i do actually take them seriously, unlike you. Really? You do realize double predestination is inherently Biblical? Rejection of the church is validated by verses like Matthew 7:15-16. Devilish twisters of the truth must be disobeyed. False prophets. And yes, only faith can bring you salvation. This is again, inherently Biblical. I'd like to see you try and debunk these, lmao. So what? If used for religious worship, they are devilish and unBiblical. You worship the image as a god, you do not worship God. That is again, Biblical. Oh, i wouldn't worry about that. First of all everyone is predestined for either damnation or salvation, and in my case it is probably the latter, in your case the former, which is why you adhere to devilish doctrine. WHY is Calvin not the one? Because the church said so? But the church is not the one either... the Scriptures said so. There goes your argument. I will assure you that never in my life i shall adhere to the heretical notion of Catholicism, and this conversation only contributes to that... because you don't really have a lot of points to debunk me with. At this point i'm actually fairly certain i've made you doubt your point of view.
Lerian V
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​@TheNabOwnzz I simply quoted your own words to point out your inconsistency. Unlike Protestants, we don't view images as God's likeness. Quoting scripture to me as a Catholic is like singing to the choir. We don't disagree on what the text says obviously, what we disagree on is the interpretation. As a separated member of the Body and Fullness of Christ, your interpretation cannot be correct since your interpretation is at odds with that of Christ's Church. Isaiah 42:8, Acts 17:29, Deuteronomy 4:16-19, Isaiah 44:15, Deuteronomy 27:15, Jeremiah 10:14, Isaiah 44:10, Leviticus 19:4, Micah 5:13 are all verses approved and canonized by the Catholic Church and they do not contradict with the Church's teachings. The entire Bible is inerrant and the Church is infallible. The first commandment also applies to idolaters like those who call themselves Christians but worship their ego; those who reject the Church Christ founded and make themselves into popes. To reject the fullness of Christ is to reject Christ. John 4:24 does not say anything at all about images; we worship God in the Spirit and truth even when surrounded by tens of images or statues. 2 Corinthians 5:7 has nothing to do with images or worship, it talks about living our lives. The salient problem is your lack of knowledge, that's your issue and not the Church's problem. A Catholic kneeling or bowing in front of a statue while praying isn’t worshipping the statue or even praying to it, any more than a Protestant who kneels with a Bible in his hands when praying is worshipping the Bible or praying to it. Bowing is used as a posture in worship but not all bowing is worship. In some cultures, people show respect by bowing in greeting (the equivalent of the Western handshake). There’s no idolatry going on in these situations. God forbids the worship of images as gods but he doesn’t ban the making of images or using them for religious purposes (as in Numbers 21:8). Worshiping images = Having other gods. Therefore, they are lumped together as the 1st Commandment which forbids idolatry. Worship of images is forbidden. But making of images is not forbidden because God himself commanded the making of statues. Dividing the 1st Commandment into two will end up making the first two commandments repetitive. They are both essentially condemning idolatry. An image is an image and not a god, that was why God himself commanded images to be made. Later on when the people began to worship the snake statue as a god, the Lord became angry, and king Hezekiah had it destroyed (2 Kings 18:4). It's good that you cited Matthew 7:15-16 because the verses that follows it directly condemn any Protestant who preach the 'faith alone' heresy. Anti-apostolic Luther, Calvin, Zwingli et al are surely the evil men that Satan used to undermine the Church's unity. The heresy of Protestantism is just one more heresy out of many heresies the Church has fought since her beginning. I know you'll not reply to this anyway because you can't debunk it, but this really proves you're a heresy-spewing wannabe Christian. By calling the apostles and their Church evil you have proven beyond reasonable doubt that you are from Satan the chief of lies. The devil used the Protestant revolutionists to attack the Church's but God has shown that his word is truth and that his promise endures forever - the Church will always prevail over the gates of hades. We excommunicate heretics like baptized Catholics like Calvin, Luther, Zwingli et al who Satan used as his agents of destruction. I know you cannot refute this because almost every learned Protestant pastor now knows this and are trying to distance themselves from these evil men who were cut off from the Body of Christ and cast to the devil as apostle Paul instructed in 1 Corinthians 5:5. The height of ignorance is when you have been so programmed by modernism that you disregard over a millennia of Christian history and jump to the 16th century as if the Church cruised her way to the 16th century without any struggle against evil forces. Anyone with a modicum of honesty and sense reads history and realizes that the Protestantism is just one more heresy out of tens of others that the one apostolic Church has encountered, battled and won. We venerate Mary a lot because she is the Most Blessed Mother of our Lord and Savior. We try but we just cannot honor her enough. Her Son Jesus Christ will always adore her more than us but that's okay. She is the most loving mother in all of history. And I will commit you into her tender hands so that she will pray for your soul which has been hardened by rebellion against his Son Jesus and his Body, the one Catholic and apostolic Church. Luther, Calvin, Zwingli et al are heretics who substituted the word of God for their own man-made doctrines (faith alone, double predestination, rejection of the authority of the Church, etc). Statues are images. I can't stress this enough because you are in mortal danger without knowing it: Excommunicated heretic John Calvin is not the chief shepherd of Christ's flock. The successor of Peter is the chief shepherd of Christ's flock. If you are not among his flock, then you are not among Christ's flock. If you knowingly or unknowingly reject Christ's Body, you have rejected Christ knowingly or unknowingly. At this point you can't use excuse of ignorance anymore because you have heard from me and have refused to hear the truth about the heretic 16th century Calvin-made doctrine that you follow.
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CoramDeo
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All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Tim. 3:16-17. But one would not expect a representative of the Roman Catholic system i.e. counterfeit Christianity - to acknowledge biblical truth.
mike
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Last time I checked Timothy wasn't in genesis. Try again
Александр Αθανάσιος
Александр Αθανάσιος Сарын өмнө
Which books are in scripture?
Eric Matthews
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The guest can’t help but interject his own philosophy or Roman Catholic doctrines in a book that does little to support or communicate those suppositions. Oh well, good book and speaks more to the default human condition and the initiation of God’s plan than many more books and philosophers thereafter.
mike
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That's his job. Duh
Александр Αθανάσιος
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Nonsense.
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