Jordan Peterson Debunks White Privilege

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There's nothing more racist than targeting an entire ethnic group with a collective crime regardless of the innocence or guilt of its individuals.
Watch as Dr. Jordan B. Peterson DEBUNKS the idea of white privilege.

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DONALD DUKE
DONALD DUKE 3 минутын өмнө
Let me tell you about MY WHITE PRIVILEDGE. Years ago I was a Fast Food Restaurant manager for an unnamed company that makes whopping big hamburgers. I wanted to become a franchisee. I was told that I had to have my own land, build my own restaurant and come up with the $750,000 franchise fee. HOWEVER, if I was black instead of white, the franchise fee would be zero and the company would build my restaurant for me and let me pay it off from store profits. Gee, wasn't I lucky to have WHITE PRIVILEDGE?
The Good Bean
The Good Bean 6 цагийн өмнө
The strawman is so lit it might as well be burning man. What he described isn’t white privilege, it’s a Frankenstein monster parody of the concept
Mr Mackey
Mr Mackey 13 цагийн өмнө
Preach guys
Shadow God
Shadow God 15 цагийн өмнө
I think the white privilege is all about what was accumulated from slavery. Through time black folks where innovative and was never compensated. Oklahoma (Black wall st) terrorized over jealousy. Hearing stories from my dad and his family living in the south... these history books have not even touched what they been through. What I’m saying had things been exercised (40 acres and a mule) and anything thing that was stolen .... I don’t think we would be having this conversation... it still nonsense going on with careers and mortgages... I do want to say I do see your perspective however this country has a history of bad credit with black/Native American Indians/Asians.
Trickybick7
Trickybick7 17 цагийн өмнө
Great video!
Clair Lund
Clair Lund 19 цагийн өмнө
The term "white privilege" is a self-serving, wishful misnomer that people of color should never use. It doesn't exist! What is conveniently being labeled as "white privilege" is, in reality, nothing more or less than white tribalism, pure and simple. In order for "privilege" to exist and then be accorded to a particular person or group of people, every other person or group of people within that environment must assume or accept as fact that that other person or group possesses privileges that they themselves do not have. As a rule, white Americans, for example, do indeed (as they always have) consistently show and act upon favoritism towards other members of their white tribe. There is no denying that, but let's call it what it is-tribalism. In today's world, where is it written that white Americans are entitled to privileges that people of color are not entitled to? It is quite likely that the white supremacists in the U.S. would like to create or recreate laws that would make them a privileged group, but I don't see that as something that is likely to happen.
lucy r
lucy r 22 цагийн өмнө
So because people were killed for being rich in the 1930s theres no such thing as white privilege. Sometimes this guy waffles.
donnie harold harris
donnie harold harris Өдрийн өмнө
You are the one with the bad additute.
Miles Furnell
Miles Furnell Өдрийн өмнө
Not being discriminated against because of the colour of your skin is a basic human right, not a privilege. The problem lies not with the people who it is afforded to but with the people who don't afford it to everyone.
frankie
frankie Өдрийн өмнө
Thank You
Lana Woollard
Lana Woollard Өдрийн өмнө
Easy to say if you never been black
Extraordinary Mindset
Extraordinary Mindset 2 өдрийн өмнө
Geography and how you're raised are definitely matters of privilege or not. Would you rather be the child of Will Smith, or a sex trafficked teenager from Ukraine, whose parents were never really around because of drugs and alcohol?
Wave Function
Wave Function 2 өдрийн өмнө
Thanks BT. Good video.
Tommy Casidy
Tommy Casidy 2 өдрийн өмнө
Privilege is the byproduct of people's accomplishments.
Jon Calvo
Jon Calvo 2 өдрийн өмнө
The term white privileged is a term coined 30 years ago by merchants of misery and victimization, ie jesse Jackson and “rev” al sharpton.
Rashiim Allen
Rashiim Allen 3 өдрийн өмнө
Its easy to have never heard of a banker who wouldn't give a loan based on race when you don't bother to read the history of housing and red lining in the U.S. Its like people love to go on Prager to profess how ignorant they love to be.
Kelja Rankelja
Kelja Rankelja 3 өдрийн өмнө
This was is a fantastic video! Great job breaking it down. It really puts things in to perspective...
Abdel Abboud
Abdel Abboud 3 өдрийн өмнө
This to me is like truth. Ever since being in US, I have never struggled to get a job.
C K
C K 3 өдрийн өмнө
Companies tried black bandages in the past and they did not sell.
The power Of truth
The power Of truth 3 өдрийн өмнө
Amen
Craig Pennington
Craig Pennington 4 өдрийн өмнө
A very dangerous subject based on stupidity.
Sharky7777
Sharky7777 4 өдрийн өмнө
Well done!
Anonymous Amsterdam
Anonymous Amsterdam 4 өдрийн өмнө
Go study Cointelpro
Ricky M
Ricky M 4 өдрийн өмнө
So all this Black Lives Matter malarkey was just to rob, riot and try make trump look as racist as possible?? Wow I never would have thought
JUDAH'Z KING
JUDAH'Z KING 4 өдрийн өмнө
Cops, you idiots. Redlines, in other words. You most likely grew up in a house your parents owned which is called equity. You didn't get put in prison for marijuana for 2 years, which saved you from not only job discrimination for life but allowed you to to make way more than $18 every week for 2 years. Equity you inherited + no job discrimination = easy street you damn dumb supremacists....
Nigel1048
Nigel1048 4 өдрийн өмнө
I didn't know shit could talk. Wow. Now I know.
Chris
Chris 4 өдрийн өмнө
Wow this Brandon Tatum dude is a POS.
Truth Imperative
Truth Imperative 4 өдрийн өмнө
WHITE SUPREMACY? YES, BUT... NO! EVERYTHING absolutely EVERYTHING humanity enjoys nowadays: from Socrates, Democritus, Aristoteles, to Kant, Hegel intellectuality to all the extraordinary art, Michel Angelo, Da Vinci, van Gogh, Velazco, to all the classical music, Beethoven, Mozart, Bach, Gershwin, to all the big Rock bands, Beatles, Rolling Stones, Queen, Pink Floyd, to all the physics, Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, Einstein, Bohr, Shannon, Turing, Ma. Curie, to trains, cars, planes, transistors, computers, smartphones, movies, Bell Labs, NASA, Pixar, internet, atomic energy, vaccines, the pill, penicillin, to defeating fascism (2xWWWs + Berlin Wall), to democracy, civil rights, freedom of speech, not to mention to the post Mao-Stalin communist´s massacres and famines RECOVERY in China, S. Korea, Japan, Taiwan etc., EVERYTHING absolutely EVERYTHING has been done and enabled by very white western men from the Judeo-Christian capitalist culture. (I repeat) EVERYTHING absolutely EVERYTHING!!! It is UNDENIABLE! I am brown, and I have two options: admire these overwhelming historical and scientific truths and be grateful, this is why our parents came to America, OR fill my heart and brain with ENVY and hate to destroy it and "justify" our failure and mediocrity. Even resentful Marx was white!!! PS.: adorable black people had been peacefully fundamental to it in the last 4-200 years. We, brown, came after it was all here, and we suck what our socialist fanatic countries were and still are incapable of doing. This is why WE Latinos (and Islamists…?) want to invade America and grab all of it. For free. EVERYTHING absolutely EVERYTHING!!! Now what? Kill and "cancel" history and reality? Good luck on that.
Joanna Prymaka
Joanna Prymaka 5 өдрийн өмнө
If only more of people like you be in this world, the world be a much better place to live 👍👏
Kristen Branch
Kristen Branch 5 өдрийн өмнө
Thank you! These are many of the thoughts I have had as well. I felt that saying I had white privilege is condescending. I am not better or worse than anyone else because I am white. We are just people and need to get to know one another on an individual level. We can't be forced to treat others in the "right" way. I guess if people think I am racist- that is on them. Those that know me personally know I am not. The fear and division that all this creates does not solve any problems. This makes people afraid of talking to people of other races all together. That's not how I'm going to live my life. I value all cultures and races and know we as a whole enrich this world. I know I'm not alone in that even though all today's propaganda tries to say I am.
Sylvester Bester Tester
Sylvester Bester Tester 5 өдрийн өмнө
Oh, screw that, I'm flaunting my white privilege. My bandages match my skin and yours doesn't, ha ha, ha ha.
B Bruner
B Bruner 5 өдрийн өмнө
I watch Officer Tatum's channel fairly regularly. He addressed the truth in a logical no nonsense way.
Grow Systems Northwest Inc.
Grow Systems Northwest Inc. 5 өдрийн өмнө
Turns out his family was repaired after slavery. Many were not as lucky but his own experience differs from the majority of black Americans.
James Dylan
James Dylan 5 өдрийн өмнө
White Privilege is not real I am a White Liberal Irish & Italian guy and IDC what you say
Dylan Repasky
Dylan Repasky 5 өдрийн өмнө
I like Jordan but he literally disagrees with himself in the second sentence...... The teaching of the concept of white privilege was never intended to "condemn all white people of a crime"... it's literally just to say "hey, in this country, there're some things that are better for you, historically, as a white person. And if you know and acknowledge that it'd be good for society." Not until the right decided to feel victimized by the phrase, (and dingwad SJW's on the far left began to overuse it as an "insult") did it have any inherently negative connotation. It's not a condemnation.... to have privilege is INHERENTLY GOOD. BE HAPPY FOR IT, WHITE PEOPLE, it's a thing everyone wants MORE of, and by acknowledging our own, we can see what it might take to create more for others. The entire argument made here may be accurate - yeah it's definitively racists to condemn an entire ethnic group - but nobody (of academic/political/philosophical importance) is doing that to white people by saying "hey y'all got some good things goin on". You wouldn't claim that saying "rich people have access to nicer cars" is an attack on rich people. Total red herring. Weak shit, Prager. PS - it is true, in many ways, that white privilege isn't nearly as ubiquitous as when it first started being taught and discussed among academics. What happened was, the INTERNET gave a voice to a shit ton of liberal arts/ women's studies majors, (via Tumblr at first, mostly) and their views began to move from the classroom to the chat room (to twitter). Now, thanks not in small part to that popularization of a once semi-obscure racial theory, (but also the general passage of time) many of those very issues taught classically as examples of White privilege HAVE , at least in part, eroded, or in some cases even reversed. Doesn't mean that it never existed, nor that it it doesn't exists to some degree still, nor even that it's past existence didn't have consequences that affect people today.
Maxine Hayes
Maxine Hayes 6 өдрийн өмнө
Perhaps you ought to tell the BBC…
De'Erika Gross
De'Erika Gross 6 өдрийн өмнө
This what happens when you pay a black person to move your agenda!
Up jumps the Boogie Boogie jumps me
Up jumps the Boogie Boogie jumps me 6 өдрийн өмнө
You will be just like the other black dude that got killed by the white police officer trying to stop a fight .... He was also someone who didn’t believe white privilege existed now he’s dead as hell
Fishing2020
Fishing2020 6 өдрийн өмнө
Being mixed I have more privilege than white and black people. Make it a double shot of Privilege.
Eric Brown
Eric Brown 7 өдрийн өмнө
This is a farce. Nothing in the world is absolute. White privilege does exist. Does every single white person in the world have a golden ticket? No. But overall white people have an advantage. At my job I have seen maybe 6 black people. The rest are white. I work at a great job that does not require a college degree. So why am I one of the few black people there? Are black people not applying?
Bob Fusinati
Bob Fusinati 7 өдрийн өмнө
Thank you
Andrew DiStasio
Andrew DiStasio 7 өдрийн өмнө
Be carful
Andrew DiStasio
Andrew DiStasio 7 өдрийн өмнө
This guy is a funded plant
Den V.
Den V. 7 өдрийн өмнө
LOL! He just confirmed in first 10 seconds that white people have kinds of privileges'.
eSatafrika Memes
eSatafrika Memes 7 өдрийн өмнө
Most people have privileges of all sorts
Madd Maxx
Madd Maxx 8 өдрийн өмнө
Truth in 2021!
al berg
al berg 8 өдрийн өмнө
a glib dismissal of the identity politics practiced by the entire USA for 100+ years AFTER the civil war
Weston Wilkins
Weston Wilkins 8 өдрийн өмнө
be careful what privilege you throw at others, you might focus on that longer than your dreams of making it big.....
Joe P535
Joe P535 8 өдрийн өмнө
Democrats use race as a voting tool as well as government benefits and promoting illegal immigration. Democrats are too dishonest for public office because they have politicized federal and state law enforcement and Republicans have shown themselves to often be bystanders to Democrat dishonesty in legislation and policy.
Mark
Mark 8 өдрийн өмнө
White privilege is so real, white liberals literally pretend to not be white in order to get jobs.
morphman86
morphman86 8 өдрийн өмнө
That's probably the biggest straw man I've ever seen. Nobody is "charging white people with the crime of white privilege". White privilege is merely the advantages that white people of any class or ethnicity gets for simply being born with a lack of melatonin. Two homeless men are busking outside a store. A white and a middle-eastern man. Guess who gets the most donations? Two university graduates are applying for the same job, one white and one black. Guess who is more likely to get the job, everything else being equal? Two workers, one white and one east Asian, are up for promotion. Guess who is more likely to get it? It's not a crime to be white. That is not what people are upset about. Nobody is mad at white people for being privileged. They are mad that this privilege gives such an advantage in every single aspect of life.
eSatafrika Memes
eSatafrika Memes 7 өдрийн өмнө
These pricks(pricjs being all sorts of establishments) want us minorities so bad to share this idea of equality
eSatafrika Memes
eSatafrika Memes 7 өдрийн өмнө
Nice and what u gonna do to fix it? Tell me I aint shit w/o you?
Paul Kersey
Paul Kersey 8 өдрийн өмнө
It’s called “white exceptionalism”.
Not Not
Not Not 8 өдрийн өмнө
I want to snuggle into a blanket made out of Brandon Tatums voice while he reads me bedtime stories.
xguy9
xguy9 8 өдрийн өмнө
There was definitely white privilege going on in the capital last week. If this was a majority black and brown crowd that decided to attack the capital the outcome would be different.
Ed Jasper
Ed Jasper 8 өдрийн өмнө
The woke Fortune 100 company that I work for sent an email yesterday recommending that we read a book titled something like "how to be antiracist" by Race Hustler Ibrahim X. I wanted to reply "fk you" but I have to keep my mouth shut to keep my job.
Thamsanqa Thusi
Thamsanqa Thusi 9 өдрийн өмнө
we are not saying it's guilt attributed to a group Jordan Peterson, we are just saying they are privileged.
Zander Mort
Zander Mort 9 өдрийн өмнө
I laughed listening to this. Not because it's untrue but because it's so undeniably accurate and the truth in it is simply beautiful.
Kevin B
Kevin B 9 өдрийн өмнө
But my white skin gives me super powers !
darkchakara
darkchakara 9 өдрийн өмнө
In light of recent events at the capitol...do u still believe that white privilege doesnt exist....and is ur belief justified?
Raleigh Robinson
Raleigh Robinson 9 өдрийн өмнө
All y'all are extremely foolish! Race has always and I mean always played a major role in every society or empire. The races are favored based on the race that is controlling it's government. The reason race is and always will be a issue is because race or racism can only be overcome with trust and that is the real issue. It's easier for a person to trust someone from their own race...period! That's why white privilege is difently real in America! We just witnessed that on Jan. 6th riots. The crowd was easier for the police to trust...why? Because they were white and the officers identified to that.
budeiri123
budeiri123 9 өдрийн өмнө
"I used to be a cop" says it all
eSatafrika Memes
eSatafrika Memes 7 өдрийн өмнө
You’re cringe
Official Young Zealous
Official Young Zealous 9 өдрийн өмнө
This argument is flawed because if you say I don't believe food stamps exist because it is repulsive and also one should not live their life living under food stamps but they should get their own food. Therefore it it's not exist. Just because you can draw a direction in which you wish people should go doesn't mean a thing doesn't exist. Teach your more or lesson in a different scenario. When the question is does it exist you don't draw a more lesson of what people should and shouldn't do and then all of a sudden claim it doesn't exist just because people are taking the subject at hand which way they want. Food stamps does exist but if you want people to think deeper will come up with ways you could help that not deny that it exists that you wouldn't be talking about it {period} it's contradictory . Likewise if you say White privilege does not exist that's first of all ignorance because the etymology of these two words is very present and in the past part of our systems in which the Civil Rights had to fight against. First of all that's denial and then second of all if you feel people should not depend upon white supremacy as an excuse then come up with ways you can help people from using this as an excuse not denying that exist.
Andre Ferreira
Andre Ferreira 9 өдрийн өмнө
White privilege? What is it? I want this sh!t, because I needed to study 12h/day for a year to enter university, then 12h/day for 5 years... oh, wait, they are saying my work is a "privilege"? No, it is *merit* but they want to spent all time doing nothing (parties, drugs, etc) and have the same thing I have.
peter vangeli
peter vangeli 9 өдрийн өмнө
Its dumbounding why Jordan has not yet been silenced. Total logic...critical thinker...highly intelligent as well as being academic......how is he allowed to continue amongst the insanity.
Emanuel Gerbi
Emanuel Gerbi 9 өдрийн өмнө
A better title would be "Jordan Peterson on White Privi.... and back to your regularly scheduled confirmation bias." Please stop using brainwashing partisan media outlets as valid information sources in 2021!
Glen Marzz
Glen Marzz 9 өдрийн өмнө
👍
Drunk Monk
Drunk Monk 9 өдрийн өмнө
I wish I could like this video a million times
Lee F
Lee F 9 өдрийн өмнө
I don't feel bad cuz it total BS,there black people in my community have better homes,better cars,wear nicer clothes so u can fuk off with nonsense.u can't say these lies people.
Steve M
Steve M 9 өдрийн өмнө
Privilege only extends to wealth. Sincerely O.J Simpson.
Alistair McMillan
Alistair McMillan 9 өдрийн өмнө
Thank you sir! About time somebody had the guts to stand up and give the real story. Kudos.
not sure
not sure 10 өдрийн өмнө
That makes perfect sense!!!
Incognito12000
Incognito12000 10 өдрийн өмнө
This video didn’t age well.
Brycen Williams
Brycen Williams 10 өдрийн өмнө
facebook.com/124700647/posts/10100187331663888/
Janay Clyde
Janay Clyde 10 өдрийн өмнө
I was actually understanding and agreeing with you until you said "attempt by the left"...then i realized this was one sided and not based on historical reality.
Barna De
Barna De 10 өдрийн өмнө
mnpost.info/zone/Zq-Zrq-ZqK2HoJg/video
DocStranger
DocStranger 10 өдрийн өмнө
I never believed in ‘white privilege’ until I saw hundreds of white people storm a government building with minimal resistance. If they had been black I wonder what the response would have been? Imagine the scenario. Just imagine it. Hundreds of angry black men and women smashing their way into the senate building, killing a police officer with a flag pole, chanting ‘hang the Vice President’ and taking zip ties into the building to take hostages. For the record I agree with everything in this video. But for me there is a specific type of white privilege that cannot be denied and that is perfectly illustrated by the senate assault. Do I feel guilty about it because I’m white? No. Why did I feel the need to comment here? Because I feel strongly that there is nuance to this debate. We shouldn’t embrace and endorse the notion of generic white privilege but we also can’t deny that sometimes, in specific cases, skin colour has a huge effect on how you are treated in America.
Eden Beats
Eden Beats 10 өдрийн өмнө
Exactly. Thank you.
TheNikki284
TheNikki284 10 өдрийн өмнө
Clarence Thomas touches on this (before it became mainstream) in his book.
justcarryonnow
justcarryonnow 10 өдрийн өмнө
I remember growing up that we are taught that we are ALL HUMAN and have red blood under our skin. Now we are taught, we are all different and to acknowledge that some people are better or worse than you.
HaveFun
HaveFun 10 өдрийн өмнө
THIS makes the confusing and disingenuous BLM agenda CLEAR. It is vividly telling you the fact of their intentions. Those in places of influence, that will use that influence for their blatant ill intended means, AND THAT'S TOO SEPARATE THIS COUNTRY ... so quit baffling blacks and everyone else, when you cannot impress anyone with brilliance of any sort.
BS Killa
BS Killa 10 өдрийн өмнө
I'm a researcher and when running a regression analysis and holding all independent variables constant race is always a large factor. In the sciences it's a slam dunk to say there's systemic racism because the data is overwhelming. Funny how false narrative, such as this, is greatly outweighed by data, mathematics, and the stochastic sciences, but you know what they say: the plural of datum is anecdote, for a fool. Meh, this comment section isn't smart enough to understand stochastic science. Just people looking for a confirmation bias without the need for math. Glad there's science to be able to take liars to court for obvious discrimination.
Ryan Palmer
Ryan Palmer 4 өдрийн өмнө
This is perfect... thank you for actually speaking truth and taking a common sense approach to the matter 👏 . I find it very difficult to understand why more people don't think this way, seems so easy.
$luglyfe
$luglyfe 8 өдрийн өмнө
You won’t get many upvotes for this, but thank you.
Gruuvin1
Gruuvin1 10 өдрийн өмнө
Kulaks. 2021. How quickly the Left has devolved into these very actions since Jan 6th. Prior to Nov 3rd, The Collective asked for healing and unity. As soon as they think they've taken power, THE PURGE is on, and they will stop at nothing! This looks like early 1900s Soviet Russia. This is what an atheist-based world view does: humans have no intrinsic value, so it makes sense to them to just kill the opposition within their own society.
Someone
Someone 10 өдрийн өмнө
He’s not really debunking white privilege, he’s just saying to generally target an ethnic group for it is unreasonable. Dont get it twisted
Frank Police Squad
Frank Police Squad 10 өдрийн өмнө
Obama is half White and Half Black- if White Privilege is real, why did he insist on being called Black instead of calling himself White and getting all that Privilege ? Because he knew that he had Black Privilege- otherwise he never would have been elected president with zero experience
De Vinois Mathieu
De Vinois Mathieu 11 өдрийн өмнө
Privilege is money. And those who have a lot of it profit of the rest who doesn’t ask for more. So it’s better to give them other challenges. Because than they don’t start thinking about their own life and how to make more out of it. Dividing them into smaller and even smaller groups of which all think they are oppressed by the rest works really good.
Tyler Strong
Tyler Strong 11 өдрийн өмнө
Im from the future. January 6th 2021 has made you a liar.
Malcom Griffin
Malcom Griffin 11 өдрийн өмнө
Peterson debunked white privilege. Tatum’s argument isn’t the same and is flawed. Sad that they’re portrayed as one.
AliceInPantera
AliceInPantera 11 өдрийн өмнө
I love how the second half of this video is this guy talking to everyone like children. Common sense is far from common these days
joe brislen
joe brislen 11 өдрийн өмнө
Good to hear someone talking sense
dimboo
dimboo 11 өдрийн өмнө
Wow. Tatum literally read my mind. Could not have made those points any better myself.
Ida Brink
Ida Brink 11 өдрийн өмнө
Very harmful video. I’m confused if this is even real.
Ida Brink
Ida Brink 11 өдрийн өмнө
@Good Fella downplaying and tone-policing
Good Fella
Good Fella 11 өдрийн өмнө
What's harmful about it?
mike conlin
mike conlin 12 өдрийн өмнө
Tatum for president 2024!!!!
Jesús
Jesús 12 өдрийн өмнө
Tbh, Brandon Tatum seems completely disingenuous
Chris Beasley
Chris Beasley 12 өдрийн өмнө
Jan 6 said hold my beer I hope y’all can just accept the truth. There’s no data in this video. It’s just personal anecdotes. This is a sad excuse for an argument. “It’s all theory and all nonsense” - can be said about every theory lol from relativity to gravity and yet we all experience gravity and believe in it.
Saltine Panda
Saltine Panda 12 өдрийн өмнө
Academic Testing privilege: Lower standard of passing the test based on your ethnicity.
The Marine Abroad
The Marine Abroad 12 өдрийн өмнө
I was waiting for him to talk about the real reason: racial intelligence
Stonewall Jackson
Stonewall Jackson 12 өдрийн өмнө
DAHAHAHAMN!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS GUY JUST DUG THE LIBERAL GRAVE 10 FEET DEEPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dean Riggott
Dean Riggott 12 өдрийн өмнө
I’m going to have my white kids check the “African American” box when they apply for college just to teach them what it’s like to be black in America.
ozanbaskan
ozanbaskan 12 өдрийн өмнө
Fantastic. Thank you.
Haley F
Haley F 12 өдрийн өмнө
I have to write a college paper about white privilege this semester 😔
Isai
Isai 13 өдрийн өмнө
The issue is, it's so easy to play the victim card on anything that goes wrong in life, it's so easy to be a victim. Some are, but those that aren't victims are taking resources and sincerity away from those that are actual victims
Lee Scott
Lee Scott 13 өдрийн өмнө
well said friend, most sense ive heard on the subject. Like my old mam used to say" you paddle your own canoe in this world"
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