Do We Have to Destroy the Earth to Save It?

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Do wind turbines and solar farms hold the keys to saving the environment? Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress and noted climate activist, used to think so. Now he’s not so sure. He explains why in this important video.
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Script:
Do we need to destroy the environment to save it?
That's the question I faced a few years ago. I co-founded a movement that was the precursor to the Green New Deal. It was called "The New Apollo Project." If we could send a man to the moon, we reasoned, surely we could save our own planet. All we had to do was harness the power of the wind and the sun and get rid of fossil fuels. Compared to the original Apollo mission, how hard could that be?
Well, it turned out to be very hard-practically impossible, in fact. The basic laws of physics and chemistry proved to be very stubborn. But, as I did more and more research, something else began to trouble me: the prospect that pushing the planet toward wind and solar energy would actually cause more harm to the environment than good. There's no better example of this than what wind and solar energy do to birds.
Industrial wind turbines-those giant generators of wind power-are the greatest new threat to golden and bald eagles. But the eagles are hardly the only ones threatened. Condors, owls, hawks and falcons all fall prey to the turbines’ mighty blades.
Big Wind-and believe me, there's a Big Wind industry now, just like there's Big Oil and Big Pharma-claims that house cats kill more birds than wind turbines. That's true. But whereas cats kill small, common birds like sparrows, wind turbines kill big, threatened-with-extinction and slow-to-reproduce species like bald eagles and condors.
Indeed, industrial wind farms are killing fields for birds. The more turbines you put up, the more birds you're going to slaughter.
According to the American Bird Conservancy in 2017, "Research shows that hundreds of thousands of birds and bats die every year when they accidentally collide with the…turbine blades. That number grows with each turbine built." The Royal Society for the Preservation of Birds reports that wind farms built off the coast of Britain could be the "final nail in the coffin" for endangered sea birds. The Center for Biological Diversity calls the Altamont Pass wind farm in California "a population sink for golden eagles as well as burrowing owls."
As for solar farms, they produce an entirely different set of problems, although they also are very harmful for birds. In California, according to a federal report, massive solar arrays produce heat up to 900 degrees. When birds fly into those arrays, they simply burn up.
Building a solar farm is a lot like building any other kind of massive industrial facility. You have to clear the whole area of wildlife. For example, in order to construct the Ivanpah solar farm in California near the Nevada border, developers hired biologists to pull threatened desert tortoises from their burrows. The tortoises were then loaded on the back of pickup trucks and caged in pens where many ended up dying.
Solar farms also need millions and millions of gallons of water to clean the mirrors and to generate power. Since most solar farms are built in the desert, we're talking about a precious resource already in short supply. "When push comes to shove, water could become the real throttle on renewable [solar] energy," according to Michael Webber, professor of mechanical engineering at the University of Texas at Austin.
Then there's the issue of what to do with solar panels that wear out. The panels contain lead and other toxic chemicals that can't be removed without breaking up the entire panel. Since it's far cheaper for solar manufacturers to just buy the raw materials than recycle old panels, those old panels end up in landfills-or, as the New York Times discovered in a 2019 investigation, dumped in poor African nations.
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Love always Wins
Love always Wins Өдрийн өмнө
People think they can play God. It’s just another way to waste money as they destroy the earth.
Pigeon
Pigeon 2 өдрийн өмнө
Earth: *unlivable* PragerU: look at now beautiful is the earth is
Luke White
Luke White 5 өдрийн өмнө
Going to throw in the fact prager u is funded by Frackers
Luke White
Luke White 5 өдрийн өмнө
Then put Cages around the turbine, simple solution
Otto von Buttsmarck
Otto von Buttsmarck 6 өдрийн өмнө
So we can't have wind because birds might die, but oil drilling is just fine for wildlife. Turtles in cages is cruel, but children in cages is just border security. Solar is bad because it damages the water supply, but fracking is a safe source of energy. Clearing land for solar farms is bad but clearing land to mine oil sands is good. Wind and solar produce waste that's hard to get rid of, but nuclear energy is the future. Conservatives really will say anything.
Mark Grunkemeyer
Mark Grunkemeyer 8 өдрийн өмнө
If you actually care about animals dying, go vegan!
Michael Chater
Michael Chater 10 өдрийн өмнө
🇬🇧 Save the UK 🇬🇧 The conservative government has set plans for our beautiful island to be completely surrounded by giant wind farms. It will destroy the wildlife; devastating the already endangered species. The aim is to make the UK the world leader of green energy by 2030. Do we want this? Is it worth it? Will it work? I think you will find the answer to that is ‘NO’
manbeast47
manbeast47 11 өдрийн өмнө
I love nuclear power and hydroelectricity, but there is still something to wind and solar. We just need to think outside the box. There are solutions. Maybe put solar panels on lakes or inside greenhouses or spread out on every roof? Put wind turbines on the medians of roads or color them with special paint. Maybe bury the generators deep below ground to hide the emf it creates so it wont affect migration patterns or attract birds? Eventually we will crack fusion efficiency, but this is promising too.
Jen loves life
Jen loves life 11 өдрийн өмнө
Thank you, Sir for being honest! I adore that! you are a hero for me!
Andrew Jamieson
Andrew Jamieson 21 өдрийн өмнө
the most “green earth” you can possibly get is by not making earth green... ironic
Khoa Lương
Khoa Lương 23 өдрийн өмнө
wow the left doesn't give a shit about the environment at at LOL
Savage Bro
Savage Bro 26 өдрийн өмнө
Why is this here
Coyote Plays
Coyote Plays 26 өдрийн өмнө
We should definitely deal with all those feral cats, though. More neuter and release please :D
Kevin Lafayette
Kevin Lafayette 27 өдрийн өмнө
Save our planet? How about you pay me reparations instead, for your work pushing the lies of the climate cult for decades?
Luca
Luca Сарын өмнө
Nuclear for life
Enrique Llerena
Enrique Llerena Сарын өмнө
Protect Condors!!! They’re my favorite animal.
Idan Ofek
Idan Ofek Сарын өмнө
wind and solar energy have their flaws but that doesn't mean we should stop using them, it means we should keep improving them.
Nadia Tanjalog
Nadia Tanjalog 13 өдрийн өмнө
Thank you , that man kept focusing on birds birds birds
Enrique Llerena
Enrique Llerena Сарын өмнө
Idan Ofek yes we have to keep improving and creating new technologies to help the planet in the long run while staying competitive in the economic side of things.
Kirito03060304gaming lol
Kirito03060304gaming lol Сарын өмнө
Humans destroy ourselfs every day i feel like murder is the only way to end this i have the same tought every time what if i murder every business owner that fouwl the earth like the amazon rain forest being chopped down
IdiotTube
IdiotTube Сарын өмнө
Wind Turbines kill birds but that is nothing compared to the destruction caused by Fossil Fuels
RiptorForever
RiptorForever Сарын өмнө
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• Bene Beck •
• Bene Beck • Сарын өмнө
He has no sources. He doesn't even differentiate between the 2 main issues with the environment. Pollution and the emission of greenhouse gases.
Noah Norel
Noah Norel Сарын өмнө
Oil is going to run out in 50 years, better start investing lol
Petre Tutea
Petre Tutea Сарын өмнө
Now it seems dangerous but we just begun to implement all these new energy solutions, over time they will become more efficient and also less dangerous, just like all other human innovations
Brandon
Brandon Сарын өмнө
First off you begin your argument with a false analogy between renewable energy and going to the moon. This fallacy sets the pace for the rest of your argument. You present data against wind turbines and solar panels, yet you fail to do so for other alternatives, such as fossil fuels or nuclear. Oil spills, for example, have huge adverse effects on ecosystems. You also fail to account for changes in technology. Solar panels are only 20% of their maximum efficiency. In the future, this number could reach 50% or above which would decrease the area needed to produce the same amount of energy. Not to mention graphene applications in solar energy (graphene is a conductive, transparent, material) which could integrate solar panels with windows. Finally, improvements in material technology may enable solar panels to also become productive thermoelectric generators.
gcHK47
gcHK47 Сарын өмнө
Nuclear power is the key, dammit! Can people get that through their heads!
Yacine Sedour
Yacine Sedour Сарын өмнө
So the solution is too stop using renewables, which will slow renewable energy innovation, and keep on burning fossil fuels despite the risk climate change poses? The takeaway is keep emitting greenhouse gases so that the environment which is already suffering from massive amounts of waste doesn’t have by products of renewable energy. Great
Albin Wilander
Albin Wilander Сарын өмнө
I have listened to his Ted Talk and this video doesn't project his real opinion, in his Ted talk he continues and says that a good way to solve the climate is to use a nonpolluting energy source such as nuclear, and then states why.
iProtons
iProtons Сарын өмнө
SERIOUSLY? You forgot about nuclear and water power. Have you ever heard of dams and nuclear reactors? They're WAY better options than wind and solar, not to mention wind and solar are not as bad as they are made out to be in this video. Believe it or not, technology is advancing, and more efficient ways to generate electricity are being tested, as well as wind and solar are always being improved. Maybe you guys could be a little more open minded and use CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, and perhaps offer up your ideas to a better solution like nuclear... But of course you don't because PragerU has an incentive to advocate for fossil fuels. *cough big oil companies want money cough*. Oh yeah not to mention how there was no comparison between the pros and cons of wind and solar to fossil fuels. There are just so many things wrong with this video, its so shallow and shows nothing but the cons of the side they disagree with. You need more than that. You need pros AND cons of BOTH wind/solar and fossil fuels. I'd learn a lot more about this by doing my own research rather than hearing what you want us to think.
Papa Stalin
Papa Stalin Сарын өмнө
And this is why nuclear power is great, such as the rather low waste thorium reactor
T.B O.A
T.B O.A Сарын өмнө
It's all bad news
Szymon Semler
Szymon Semler Сарын өмнө
The more solar and big wind farms, the more chances to trigger situation on the Moon.
ImperatorZor
ImperatorZor Сарын өмнө
"What wind and solar energy do to birds" phys.org/news/2017-06-farms-bird-slayers-theyre-behere.html
The Developer
The Developer Сарын өмнө
Blm? Bird lives matter!
Patriot Mike
Patriot Mike Сарын өмнө
I came up with a way to grow microalgae anywhere fossil fuels were burned and waste water was created. The DOJ rejected our grant for thr project. The reasons were absurd. Cincy tech and UK's algae professor both got mad at my idea and offered me other projects to occupy my time with. The MIT algae guy at cincy tech wanted me to promise not to "waste time" on the idea of large-scale decentralized production of algae for biofuels. I know there are many patents that have been scrubbed from the net and nothing to be found on them. We need to drain the swamp before we can actually start to solve problems.
WeDontThink
WeDontThink Сарын өмнө
what do we do at night?
Hobbit Homes
Hobbit Homes Сарын өмнө
What I want to know is what Dmeocrats propose to do with MILLIONS of gas poered doodads,,,forncars to motorcycles, buses, teain, leaf blower, weed wackerss..where are they gonna pile all that shit
Hobbit Homes
Hobbit Homes Сарын өмнө
To replace ALL of the energy consumed form all sources, it would take 83.3 MILLION winde turbines, At 50 aces far turbine that is a land mass the size of Russia
Felix Baum
Felix Baum Сарын өмнө
Counterpoint: www.freeingenergy.com/how-much-solar-would-it-take-to-power-the-u-s/
Megan Bray
Megan Bray Сарын өмнө
We will all freeze to death with just solar we will always use some coal according to the sierraclub.org God has to almost kill us to teach us a lesson carbon disclosure project there are to many people breathing ghengis khan effective cooperation.org/blogs
Joseph Stratemeier
Joseph Stratemeier Сарын өмнө
Ngl, wouldn't mind getting rid of some of those bats.
Elizabeth Bambo
Elizabeth Bambo Сарын өмнө
But, is the earth really a sphere? I have found no real evidence only theories. Seen to many fake NASA using green screen videos. The earth is a flat plain and all evidence points to that fact. Why are we being deceived? We are being used that’s why. We are special and everything above us revolves around us. Earth is stationary not moving as stated by pseudo scientists. Please research the rabbit hole is deep.
Elizabeth Bambo
Elizabeth Bambo Сарын өмнө
Tamos i am serious and it has nothing to do with the flat earth society. Physics is simple and not complicated. What you see is what it is, no made up theories to indoctrinate you. Even before the 19th century people still believed the earth was flat, because it is. All ancient civilizations knew this fact. The Bible clearly says the earth is stationary (Job 38) not rotating at 1000 mph. It is sad when people will believe the lie than their own eyes. There is plenty of sources and science to back flat earth up and none for a sphere, all are made up, it’s called pseudo science. What people can’t understand will believe. Relativity is false and so is gravity. It just does not exist. Perform your own experiments and wake-up. You will be blown away, just like I have. Space is a great hoax and a fantasy world. Start living the truth.
Tamos
Tamos Сарын өмнө
Just in case you're serious (really hard to tell those days), your "deep" rabbit hole is most likely tied one way or another to the Flat Earth Society which is the origin of most content related to that conspiracy theory on the internet today. Their sources are a few texts that were spawned in the second half of the 19th century by a few religious zealots with no understanding of basic physics.
Tom Hornsby
Tom Hornsby Сарын өмнө
Birds have cone cells sensitive to UV light, pop aome of those flashing bad boys on em and birds wont go near
Rufus
Rufus Сарын өмнө
Is there a better alternative currently being used on a mass industrial scale??
Grant Johnson
Grant Johnson Сарын өмнө
Yes. Nuclear.
VirtualParentalUnit
VirtualParentalUnit Сарын өмнө
Why can't they install something on the turbine or around the perimeter that scares birds away? A pulse or something that makes their radar say "Go the other way"? We have technology that can easily do this...no?
Jared Matheson
Jared Matheson Сарын өмнө
Uhhh this has to be one of the stupidest arguments I have ever heard.
Liam Oconnor
Liam Oconnor Сарын өмнө
wind turbines are a threat to eagles and other large birds, however compared to other current issues, such as poaching, car collisions, and lead poisoning, it is lower on the list and more preventable than you would assume. Work still needs to be done between wildlife conservation centers and wind power to decrese the risk, like lighting up the towers, clearing the area around the turbines of potential food, and direct consulting to avoid common migration patterns when deciding a site. and again after the banning of DDT an actual major risk to them as a species, most conservationists have the consensus that they can both exist peacefully
ridow300
ridow300 Сарын өмнө
Liquid fluoride thorium reactors all the way BABY! Nuclear is the best way to go!
Renan Lira
Renan Lira Сарын өмнө
Fundamental video. Just... FUNDAMENTAL
Bogbanter
Bogbanter Сарын өмнө
Can you say nuclear?
Brendan Fitzpatrick
Brendan Fitzpatrick Сарын өмнө
Ok so he lied... a lot. Wind turbines and solar panels wouldn’t take up 25% of America to power it all, it would take .3%
David Craig
David Craig Сарын өмнө
I've got a solution, I believe. We'll have to get a bolt of lightning to prove it.
nattywatty
nattywatty Сарын өмнө
Simple, go vegan and build nuclear, that’s like a 70 to 80 percent reduction in emissions right there.
khfan4life365
khfan4life365 Сарын өмнө
I’m on board for nuclear power, if we don’t have a repeat of Chernobyl.
Grant Johnson
Grant Johnson Сарын өмнө
Isn't it ironic that it was a socialist country that gave nuclear such a bad rap...?
Mrkaelin1
Mrkaelin1 Сарын өмнө
do you guys know that you can put solar-panael on top o a house? You don't need to put it into the wildlife area
Marie Betlow
Marie Betlow Сарын өмнө
Great info. Things i never considered.
Stephen8vaTr
Stephen8vaTr Сарын өмнө
Which is worse: losing our planet, or birds dying?
john Chandler
john Chandler Сарын өмнө
Years back a Letter to the Editor by a retired Admiral was best idea ever: all big naval ships & submarines are run by small nuclear reactors with no accidents for decades. Every city or town should have it's own reactor. Power wouldn't go off from a problem 100 miles away and there are many retired navy guys that would be glad for the job. Men with years of experience to correctly train new ones. Something to think about. Also, any accident would be small localized and easily contained. Not spread over 100s of sq miles like Chernobal.
Jirfin
Jirfin Сарын өмнө
I still think nuclear is currently the best option, maybe wave power too, and geothermal where possible 🤔 or maybe we go back to being like the amish👨‍🌾 im just kidding
VISHWAS PRABHU
VISHWAS PRABHU Сарын өмнө
energycentral.com/c/ec/how-much-land-does-solar-wind-and-nuclear-energy-require
Alexandre Motkalyuk
Alexandre Motkalyuk Сарын өмнө
Nuclears is the only way
ACTS
ACTS Сарын өмнө
Ummm ... WE all know that "green energy" is not green at all and the closest you can come is generation IV and V nuclear plants with the new old thorium salt technology bringing up the rear but still well ahead of all these "green" proposals. It's not about energy, it's about power over people, else the left and all their green weenies would be screaming for atomic power.
Bran Hugh
Bran Hugh Сарын өмнө
This video makes me sick. Yes, obviously wind and solar have their issues (although, to be honest, birds? Really?) but the fact that they can harness renewable sources of energy makes them intrinsically better options than fossil fuels. What on Earth do you think we will do when we run out of fossil fuels? Why is this man trying to make us go backwards? We need to continue engineering better solar and wind technologies, this video is a disgusting propaganda attempt by a channel funded by big oil.
Graydon B.
Graydon B. Сарын өмнө
I can find at least 3 online sources disproving each major point in less time than it took to watch this video.
Th3br0wncray0n
Th3br0wncray0n 18 өдрийн өмнө
Ah yes. Please share how Vox, Huffpost, and CNN have educated you on this subject
Avinash M
Avinash M 27 өдрийн өмнө
Do tell me
Damien Knox
Damien Knox Сарын өмнө
1:07 was that a pun? :)
Roy
Roy Сарын өмнө
Every video on Prager: oil oil oil oil
CiCi Q
CiCi Q Сарын өмнө
We'll be merged with technology within the century, so anybody who still cares deeply about the environment is a moron who isn't seeing the big picture. Grow up and join team human ;)
Christ Kandosii 333
Christ Kandosii 333 Сарын өмнө
I don’t think that nuclear power is a good answer either.
D B
D B Сарын өмнө
Apocalypse Never is one of the best books I have ever read in my life. It paints a great pathway that climate change alarmists and deniers can and should all agree on and be thrilled about.
Triskaideka thirteen
Triskaideka thirteen Сарын өмнө
Wow wow wow!
Alex Daigle
Alex Daigle Сарын өмнө
Interesting video from a group that receives a lot of money from frackers
Anne Sommer
Anne Sommer Сарын өмнө
imagine telling your kids that you were the bad guys in the history. Please get a real job and stop this channel
CiCi Q
CiCi Q Сарын өмнө
Nobody cares what you think, so why don't you just stick to taking Instagram selfies ;)
Aldri
Aldri Сарын өмнө
Nuclear and hydro electrical is the future
Ryan Dy-Liacco
Ryan Dy-Liacco Сарын өмнө
So basically Wind and Solar cause more environmental damage than gas and nuclear. As expected from the left to back it 100% without debate nor question.
MyLittleDashie 7
MyLittleDashie 7 Сарын өмнө
The fact this was your takeaway is proof that PragerU have worked their mind tricks on you. You summed up the video as saying "wind and solar are worse for the environment that gas and nuclear". At absolutely no point in this video was a comparison made. They told you a bunch of bad stuff about renewables. Didn't tell you any bad stuff about non-renewables, and let your mind fill in the blanks. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you're stupid for that, or anything. You're human, our minds take shortcuts to understand things *easier*. But easier doesn't mean better, or correctly. Yes wind and solar have issues, but they are *miles* better than fossil fuels in terms of environmental impact. They shouldn't need to be perfect. They just need to be better. Also there was just a lot of misinformation here to make you think they're worse than they are. The full quote from the RSPB said that "[windfarms need to be planned carefully], so they don't become the final nail in the coffin", which is very different to "windfarms are the final nail in the coffin" as this video put it. And the article on the American Bird Conservancies website starts by saying "Wind energy and birds can coexist". And the type of solar farm that gets up to 900C by aiming mirrors at a tower are not favoured anymore. Photovoltaic are much more popular and they don't have that same issue of cooking birds, because they don't converge the light into a point.
Will McM
Will McM Сарын өмнө
Prager U is funded by Dan and Ferris Wilks, fracking billionaires. Know where this videos, and channels bias lies.
CiCi Q
CiCi Q Сарын өмнө
We'll be merged with technology within the century, so anybody who still cares deeply about the environment is a moron who isn't seeing the big picture. Grow up and join team human ;)
Will McM
Will McM Сарын өмнө
Prager U is funded by oil money, so take this with a grain of salt or take your blue pill.
Jesse Kaiser
Jesse Kaiser Сарын өмнө
Aren't the people who are advocating for wind and solar the most strenuously the same ones who lecture us on deforestation, eating meat, and the like? Hmm, strange...
Jesse Kaiser
Jesse Kaiser 28 өдрийн өмнө
​@khoops0306 I'm not sure what kind of attempt at a burn that was, but whatever. People who burn fossil fuels aren't lecturing the public about killing the planet. The people who advocate for wind and solar are when what they do has severe consequences. There's only one side being hypocritical here. Also, to answer your question, yes.
khoops0306
khoops0306 28 өдрийн өмнө
Aren’t the people who are advocating for the burning of fossil fuels the same ones who own them in the first place? Hmm, strange...
Mike Turk
Mike Turk Сарын өмнө
We have to save the environment to destroy it.
Łucid
Łucid Сарын өмнө
Holy shit i didnt know solar farms got so goddamn hot👀
MyLittleDashie 7
MyLittleDashie 7 Сарын өмнө
Not all of them do. There are two major types of farms. Photovoltaic farms aim the panels at the sun and turn the light directly into energy inside the panel, and are also the much more popular kind nowadays. The type this guy is talking about are the kinds that aim a bunch of mirrors toward a tower in the center, reflecting all the sunlight onto it. This converging of the light is what makes it so hot. That heat is then used to power turbines in the tower to make electricity. Major point being, the type this guy is talking about are not the dominant type anymore. Photovoltaics are much more efficient, and don't require the construction of a massive tower that can withstand insane temperatures. Please take note of this example as one of the many ways PragerU tricks it's audience into false conclusions. They don't lie to you, they tell you the truth, but they leave out *extremely* relevant points in order to guide you toward the premise that they profit from.
JWSx2
JWSx2 Сарын өмнө
Huh, you know what would kill more than just birds, global warming. It would destroy fragile ecosystems and kill many more animals
Joshua Thomas
Joshua Thomas Сарын өмнө
I can't believe people actually take this seriously it's literally propaganda they literally lied about how much land it would take up which is only 0.03% of land but they said 25 this page is honestly a joke
the8u9
the8u9 Сарын өмнө
no no it's actually true that going purely wind and solar could take up that much space. But it is pretty disingenuous like you say, since they're also removing hydro from the picture when they say stuff like that. I mean we all know nuclear is the future I don't know why these types are fighting against progress all the while bickering nonsensically about wind/solar VS fossil fuel energy. Sigh...
Peter Paul Lee
Peter Paul Lee Сарын өмнө
Green energy enthusiasts vs animal rights activists....like it....
Pnoch Eowell
Pnoch Eowell Сарын өмнө
Solar Panels are bad for my eyes as they blind me while walking my Dogs.
Dawson Posekany
Dawson Posekany Сарын өмнө
Ah yes... i remember when i watched these videos unironically
Youcant Stopme!
Youcant Stopme! Сарын өмнө
This shit is the worst kind of propaganda.
Krispy Boi
Krispy Boi Сарын өмнө
THORIUM NUCLEAR SAY IT WITH ME THORIUM NUCLEAR
Simia Malum
Simia Malum Сарын өмнө
Saying house cats kill more birds is nothing to be proud of. House cats are little murder machines. They are a horrible invasive species. Frankly, many cat owners do not control their pets so...go ahead look at their impact.
Crazy Gamer
Crazy Gamer Сарын өмнө
Forgot to mention how most of the global emissions come from China & 3rd world countries.
Anne Sommer
Anne Sommer Сарын өмнө
I can‘t even express how much this is bullsh
Bryan Shoemaker
Bryan Shoemaker Сарын өмнө
Well owls tend to run into everything. No joke, we have lots of them here and they are always flying into things and killing themselves. Including trees
sven nordling
sven nordling Сарын өмнө
AOC should watch this program.
Makaramus
Makaramus Сарын өмнө
Birds die because of solar panels and wind turbines Peta:*Sleeps* People playing animal crossing Peta:*REAL SHIT*
Nathaniel Ibrahim
Nathaniel Ibrahim Сарын өмнө
This is a disingenuos argument from PragerU. PragerU is funded by fracking billionaires like the Wilks brothers, and two members of the Wilks family are actually on PragerU's board. PragerU is an outlet for Oil billionaires to scare you. Sure, there are large corporations selling solar power, but comparing "Big Solar" to "Big Oil" is ridiculous. Look up the largest companies in the world for a second. Here's a list of them based on revenue:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_companies_by_revenue Of the top ten companies in the world, six of them are oil companies(and one is China's electrical grid company which is powered mainly by fossil fuels). Look through the list and you'll find 4 more massive oil and gas companies, but no solar companies. There's no comparison, but PragerU is trying to scare you. Secondly, the title is an absolute lie. You cannot destroy the earth with wind turbines. I agree with many of the points made in this video, and we need to understand that there is no silver bullet for solving our energy needs, but the threat posed by fossil fuels is droughts, extreme heat, famines, and more horrible things, primarily affecting the global south, all because of greenhouse gas emissions. I too am worried about the death of large birds, but that's not a comparable issue. I suppose "Do we have to kill some birds to save the earth?" would be a less forceful title, but even that would be less honest because... Thirdly, Michael Shellenberger himself advocates for a third option: Nuclear power. But PragerU(which only puts out videos personally edited by Dennis Prager) does not include that important detail to this story. Thus, PragerU tries to make fossil fuels more palatable in people's minds by attacking some forms of renewable energy while leaving us without a third option. This video doesn't enrich the discussion on renewable energy, it drags us backward. It's not-so-cleverly hidden pro-fracking propaganda, and the only reason I assume Mr. Shellenberger would agree to help is because he believed naively he could spread his message and do some good using PragerU's platform.
Zain Chupacabra
Zain Chupacabra Сарын өмнө
"Hey guys, did you know a few birds will die? That's why we shouldn't do any of this which will help save a lot of other creatures."
MyLittleDashie 7
MyLittleDashie 7 Сарын өмнө
"If it isn't a *perfect* solution to global warming, I'm not going to stop pumping pollutants into the groundwater so I can burn more dinosaurs."
Aneurin Taylor
Aneurin Taylor Сарын өмнө
What, no, of course we, Prager"U", aren't trying to put down renewable energy sources because we're funded by oil billionaires with an agenda to crush all competition with lies and/or misrepresented evidence (the Wilkes brothers, big fracking barons)! It's because we love the birds!
Aneurin Taylor
Aneurin Taylor Сарын өмнө
CiCi Q this comment is deeply confident and confusing, it’s amazing
CiCi Q
CiCi Q Сарын өмнө
We'll be merged with technology within the century, so anybody who still cares deeply about the environment is a moron who isn't seeing the big picture. Grow up and join team human ;)
orchid
orchid Сарын өмнө
@Schorl Tourmaline PragerU often states things that are either ambiguous enough to pass as "true" or only parts of the truth to push an agenda. One example is at 1:13, the narrator mentions 'big wind' and compares it to 'big oil', a kind of a tu quoque attack, when in fact the sizes of the two markets are not even comparable (orders of magnitudes apart). The entire video totally fails to put things into perspective. Environmental damage from fossil fuels kills many more human and animal lives *per gigawatt-hour* than wind blades or solar panels. Then some facts are just flat out wrong. At the end he claims that powering all of US with solar/wind will take up 25% of the US soil. No idea where this comes from. Every source I've been able to find online puts the figure to about 10~20 million acres to power the US with pure solar, which is
Schorl Tourmaline
Schorl Tourmaline Сарын өмнө
ok, but is anything they said wrong? You can be funded by billionaires with agendas, and still be factually correct.
placid tempura
placid tempura Сарын өмнө
While I agree with a lot of what Mr. Shellenberger has done in the past, his recent behavior has really disappointed me. This video (like all Prageru's videos) is filled with misinformation and doesn't provide context for many of its claims. 1. Wind Turbines kill endangered birds: This is true, but needs a lot of context. The most extreme statistics, which I will use to be charitable to Mr. Shellenberger, is about 700,000 birds every year. This is where context matters because fossil fuels are an order of magnitude more harmful to birds than wind turbines. The fossil fuel industry kills over 14 million birds every year, and the extraction of coal alone kills nearly 8 million. And the birds killed by fossil fuels do include endangered species. Additionally, there are researchers working on solutions to this because bird deaths are still important. The most realistic solution is to properly zone areas for wind turbines that are out of the way of migration routes. 2. Solar Power kills birds: Again needs context. While solar farms do kill birds, it is still much lower than the rate of fossil fuels. 3. Ivanpah Tortoises: I do not defend the killing of tortoises, but I think that the Ivanpah Solar Farm should serve as a lesson rather than a termination of the ecological impact of solar farms. We should learn from our mistakes. 4. Solar uses water: Yes, solar energy uses water. However context (yet again) is needed for this. Solar energy uses about 20 gallons of water per megawatt hour, however coal uses up to 60,000 gallons per megawatt hour. 5. Waste from old Solar and Wind Farms: Yes this is a problem, however the waste from solar and wind farms is, in my and many experts' opinions, much better than the current forms of energy we currently use. Coal, Oil, and natural gas have much worse environmental impacts than old turbine blades and solar panels ever will. 6. 25% land use claim: I legitimately have no idea where this claim comes from and am not even going to bother responding to it. TL;DR version: Mr. Shellenberger rebukes the environmental impacts of renewable energy sources (effects on wildlife, water consumption, and waste) but does not compare those impacts to the current impacts of fossil fuels which are orders of magnitude worse.
Gavin Gustav
Gavin Gustav Сарын өмнө
What about all the mining needed for all the raw resources like neodymium or lithium?
SA T.
SA T. 2 сарын өмнө
Apocalypse Never is a curious title, kind of an affront to Bible believers. The Greek word means an unveiling of previously unrevealed truth. It is another name for the book of Revelation. It does not mean 'doomsday'. Revelation speaks of the ultimate judgment, but also unveils the glory and majesty of the Son of God. Another title would be in order. 'Apocalypse Never' is a connotation that Jesus Christ, the Almighty God, does not have permission somehow from us to be returning in judgment and to set up His Millennial kingdom.
Torb 1 Trick
Torb 1 Trick 2 сарын өмнө
i see all these comments about nuclear and i just think too good to be true. it’s only partly the uranium mining but something else just feels off about it i don’t know the words.
The Gent
The Gent 2 сарын өмнө
Look at the damage nuclear waste and fossil fuels has been doing to the planet for the past 70+ years. These can’t be ‘made safer’ however wind farms and solar panels have a much lower carbon footprint by comparison and with more R&D could lead to new innovations to make them green.
Art Irony
Art Irony 2 сарын өмнө
so why doesn't he provide any alternatives? I know PragerU just grift for the oil industry but its weird for them to not even try to argue that oil is better somehow
Grant Johnson
Grant Johnson Сарын өмнө
Already been done... just do a quick youtube search for "shellenberger nuclear power"
Brenden Oneill
Brenden Oneill 2 сарын өмнө
This guy is a FOOL!!! Long live Budapest
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